Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

[helenatan]

For so many of us to be able to feel the same satanic influence in kpop only proves further that it wasn't just presumptions.
I else appeased myself the same way. I know it will freak you out but a month before Jonghyun died God had been constantly repeating those two phrases - "Jonghyun will die. Once that happens, it's the end(of a certain era)." I was really frightened every time this popped up into my mind. And then, it happened. That's when I understood that I was playing with God. I knew I had to start sharing everything for once.

My first kpop groups were BIGBANG and 2NE1 with their song Lollipop. Soon after that I started listening to every single kpop group/artist I could found on google. I was obsessed with listening to music. My most fave groups were BB, SHINee, SNSD, Super Junior, DBSK, Ft Island, NCT. Then I had a korean underground music period. I have tried almost every possible artist out there.
My ub were GD and Jonghyun. And that's when it hit me officially that I can't keep playing around anymore. I still listen to it daily when I work out. But nothing is the same anymore and it'll never be. This world is a rotten place.

Do u mean u have feeling jonghyun will die before? Too bad it become true :'(
I watch many video about him ( when he sing/fan meet/interview) after view (2015) era , he looks so white like vampire / so pale. He looks gloomy,force to smile,easily crying,sensitive,

I dont thing anything bad will happen to shinee since 1 of 1 (2016) era shinee's mv and live perfomance less symbolic than before.

I cant believe the handler choose jonghyun. I think they will choose yg ent. for something like this, maybe choose top,g dragon or cl.

 

[helenatan]

For so many of us to be able to feel the same satanic influence in kpop only proves further that it wasn't just presumptions.
I else appeased myself the same way. I know it will freak you out but a month before Jonghyun died God had been constantly repeating those two phrases - "Jonghyun will die. Once that happens, it's the end(of a certain era)." I was really frightened every time this popped up into my mind. And then, it happened. That's when I understood that I was playing with God. I knew I had to start sharing everything for once.

My first kpop groups were BIGBANG and 2NE1 with their song Lollipop. Soon after that I started listening to every single kpop group/artist I could found on google. I was obsessed with listening to music. My most fave groups were BB, SHINee, SNSD, Super Junior, DBSK, Ft Island, NCT. Then I had a korean underground music period. I have tried almost every possible artist out there.
My ub were GD and Jonghyun. And that's when it hit me officially that I can't keep playing around anymore. I still listen to it daily when I work out. But nothing is the same anymore and it'll never be. This world is a rotten place.

After jonghyun's death i delete all of shinee song , and all artist under sm Ent. (Like exo,red velvet) (Just some song left) , because i think the lyric have many symbolic , and someone in this group show us lyric in nct/red velvet/snsd have something dark.

 

[julisummer]

For so many of us to be able to feel the same satanic influence in kpop only proves further that it wasn't just presumptions.
I else appeased myself the same way. I know it will freak you out but a month before Jonghyun died God had been constantly repeating those two phrases - "Jonghyun will die. Once that happens, it's the end(of a certain era)." I was really frightened every time this popped up into my mind. And then, it happened. That's when I understood that I was playing with God. I knew I had to start sharing everything for once.

My first kpop groups were BIGBANG and 2NE1 with their song Lollipop. Soon after that I started listening to every single kpop group/artist I could found on google. I was obsessed with listening to music. My most fave groups were BB, SHINee, SNSD, Super Junior, DBSK, Ft Island, NCT. Then I had a korean underground music period. I have tried almost every possible artist out there.
My ub were GD and Jonghyun. And that's when it hit me officially that I can't keep playing around anymore. I still listen to it daily when I work out. But nothing is the same anymore and it'll never be. This world is a rotten place.

Wow, that's interesting. Not so long before Jonghyun died I had the urge to pray for him - I prayed that one Christian in Korea could reach out his hand and lead him on the right path. I didn't care that he could not perform on stage anymore or would have to leave the music industry. I NEVER had the desire to pray for an idol/star before. It is really as if God tried to tell us something.

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

I love all of you even more now!
Yes, it does take guts. I think it came from the fact that I had too much on my mind that I needed to share.
It's still unreal to me how we all came together at the same period of time and none of us was the type of dismissing the opinion of the others, no fan wars, no sugar coating. It was an amazing week of freeing my mind!

yeah its amazing, sharing with like minded people is great, I love the guys here...keep going and don't let the trolls get you, they are jealous

 

[lee_]

@Golden_Sky
I believe they aren't actually clones - like some celebs in Hollywood who possibly are- bc korean idols are basically being sold by their parents in a young age. I think that they definitely push a cloning agenda in Korea but not by producing clones(at least not yet ) rather than by debuting people who have specific facial characteristics or providing them the same plastic surgeries,same makeup,hairstyles etc.Many idols look alike nowadays bc of their makeup and their style in general and sometimes I find it hard to tell them apart especially the new groups that i'm not familiar with.As a result many people in Korea want to look like their favorite idols,undergo plastic surgeries and end up losing every part of their unique features. Hence I think they are not clones,they are just being used for a greater purpose: to have the mass get accustomed to a similar way of thinking,styling etc.It happens all the time with fashion and makeup trends as well.Being original is something hard to find these days.

I like your point on "to have the mass get accustomed to a similar way of thinking,styling etc.". They do the same thing for beauty pageants in South Korea, the contestants of Miss Korea 2013 came under attack since they looked strikingly similar (compare the picture above and below):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314647/Has-plastic-surgery-20-Korean-beauty-pageant-contestants-look-Pictures-contest-hopefuls-goes-viral.html

 

[julisummer]

Here is something for the people, who think that K-Pop is less infiltrated than american music (and this are only a few of maaany examples):

- Fallen angels
- One Eye Sign
- Blue - Red (Masonic colours)
- Ritual dresses (red)
- Snakes

(I even have some more, but I can't upload them all)

 

[Kandy Amemori]

I like your point on "to have the mass get accustomed to a similar way of thinking,styling etc.". They do the same thing for beauty pageants in South Korea, the contestants of Miss Korea 2013 came under attack since they looked strikingly similar (compare the picture above and below):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314647/Has-plastic-surgery-20-Korean-beauty-pageant-contestants-look-Pictures-contest-hopefuls-goes-viral.html

That's the power of plastic surgery. (LOL)

 

[Kandy Amemori]

Here is something for the people, who think that K-Pop is less infiltrated than american music (and this are only a few of maaany examples):

- Fallen angels
- One Eye Sign
- Blue - Red (Masonic colours)
- Ritual dresses (red)
- Snakes

(I even have some more, but I can't upload them all)

The Korean music industry is just as satanic or it could be even more satanic than the American music industry.

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

I am also really grateful for everyone sharing their opinion here and respecting the thoughts of the others. I knew something was wrong about K-Pop right after getting into it, but simply decided to ignore it (It started with Block B's "Very Good" and Bigbang's "Fantastic Baby").
Little by little many things started to bother me: the "fanservice" (e.g. Jongtae's Internet war), the satanic symbolism (nearly in every YG and SM performance),
the crossdressing, the abusive humor and maaany more BUT I was still listening to it.
I appeased myself often, saying that I would ignore the worst songs (like SHINee's Lucifer, Fantastic Baby, Coup D'etat, Monster, Mama, BST,...)
However, Jonghyun's death opened my eyes - I understood that I was playing with fire. After that I found this thread, as I really wanted to know if I was the only one thinking something was off about JH's death. It really feels good to know that many of you share my opinion and see even further. All the aspects you pointed out about BTS, Red Velvet, NCT, Mino, Ladie's Code and many more was really helpful. Not only groups from SM and YG are infiltrated but the whole industry.
You are great observers - let's keep up this work. Some people have already joined us and hopefully many will follow.

Ah, I have one question: I am really interested what group got you into K-Pop and the group you were/are into (until you stopped listening to it). I would also like to know when/ why you decided not to listen to K-Pop any more.
I will begin with myself:
When my sister introduced me to K-Pop with Beast and Block B, I simply laughed about it. However, that changed quickly and B.A.P and BIGBANG became my favorite groups at the beginning. I also listened to many others back then. Since last year (EDIT: it was 2016 - Happy New Year everyone ) I became a Shawol (Jonghyun was my bias). (I have told you the rest already)

I begin with Kpop first with Mr.Simple a song by the super junior, I become crazy about them, I remember I watched that music video for 10 hours straight! it was something new to me that I didn't see some thing similar before, then I start knowing the group one by one, KyuHyun become my first ultimate bias, I still like him till today though, after getting too deep in Kpop, I heard about the illuminati and the satanic symbol that I have no idea before, I didn't believe it at first though, it was something like far fetched fiction, any way, super junior continued to be my ultimate group though I remember back then, when I watched dirty cash by big bang I loved them but after seeing their other videos I hated them, because its sexual and degrading to women, I hated also YG... after like six month doing nothing but obsessing about Kpop, I decided that its time to cut it off, I returned back to listening to Taiwanese Buddhist songs like I used to do before kpop and it was huge happiness and relief, like I have returned back to my self that was hijacked! I remember this thing back then, I left listening to Kpop and seeing about it in the internet but they are still in my head though, its strange how I become a shawol as I mentioned here before, it was actually after dream that I have after I Ieft Kpop, it was about Key from SHINee, and I still remember that dream very much, I waked up with huge love for Key, he became my ultimate bias till today, and SHINee become my ultimate group more than super junior! its weird lol
I haven't listened to Kpop again until before 3 months, and I am planning actually to stop, because its not healthy for me and for my religion

 

[lee_]

I begin with Kpop first with Mr.Simple a song by the super junior, I become crazy about them, I remember I watched that music video for 10 hours straight! it was something new to me that I didn't see some thing similar before, then I start knowing the group one by one, KyuHyun become my first ultimate bias, I still like him till today though, after getting too deep in Kpop, I heard about the illuminati and the satanic symbol that I have no idea before, I didn't believe it at first though, it was something like far fetched fiction, any way, super junior continued to be my ultimate group though I remember back then, when I watched dirty cash by big bang I loved them but after seeing their other videos I hated them, because its sexual and degrading to women, I hated also YG... after like six month doing nothing but obsessing about Kpop, I decided that its time to cut it off, I returned back to listening to Taiwanese Buddhist songs like I used to do before kpop and it was huge happiness and relief, like I have returned back to my self that was hijacked! I remember this thing back then, I left listening to Kpop and seeing about it in the internet but they are still in my head though, its strange how I become a shawol as I mentioned here before, it was actually after dream that I have after I Ieft Kpop, it was about Key from SHINee, and I still remember that dream very much, I waked up with huge love for Key, he became my ultimate bias till today, and SHINee become my ultimate group more than super junior! its weird lol
I haven't listened to Kpop again until before 3 months, and I am planning actually to stop, because its not healthy for me and for my religion

It gives me chills how Kpop is able to affect your subconscious mind.

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Do u mean u have feeling jonghyun will die before? Too bad it become true :'(
I watch many video about him ( when he sing/fan meet/interview) after view (2015) era , he looks so white like vampire / so pale. He looks gloomy,force to smile,easily crying,sensitive,

I dont thing anything bad will happen to shinee since 1 of 1 (2016) era shinee's mv and live perfomance less symbolic than before.

I cant believe the handler choose jonghyun. I think they will choose yg ent. for something like this, maybe choose top,g dragon or cl.

yeah its heartbreaking that they chooses him ....they won't choose the bad guys, they will choose the nice one, so I think for this reason big bang isn't in the list

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

It gives me chills how Kpop is able to affect your subconscious mind.

yeah, it misses hard with my mind

 

[presenttense]

But why jonghyun? Other than is age and his likablility? Was he about to expose the korean illuminati? Celebs in the west have been offed when they have tried to let the public know about the illuminati. Was he trying to break free and didnt want to coroporate anymore? Was he targeted at random?

 

[Orwell's mentor]

yeah its amazing, sharing with like minded people is great, I love the guys here...keep going and don't let the trolls get you, they are jealous

For the most part, I don’t think there are any trolls or jealousy in this thread, SHinEeHeaven. From my own perspective, and that’s not say mine is right by any means, but I think VC members are innately interested in why it’s so active.

To put into context, in less than two weeks, this thread has 72 pages and counting. Many VC forum members have been here for quite a while and have not seen any topic discussed as incessantly and feverishly as Kpop. If you look through the threads throughout the forum, with the exception of some threads in the Lounge, there aren't too many topics that have that many pages and within such a short time span.

Therefore, I don’t think anyone should take offence to the curiosity from other members coming to this thread and wanting to know what the e-chatter is all about. Most of the comments made by other members who aren't familiar with Kpop appear to be sincere in their posts in wanting to know why it’s such a hot topic, that’s all.

That said, it’s nice too see you've all been able to find a place to discuss something that you've wanted to for a while.

Anyway, I didn’t mean to interrupt. Welcome to the forum - carry on.

 

[julisummer]

But why jonghyun? Other than is age and his likablility? Was he about to expose the korean illuminati? Celebs in the west have been offed when they have tried to let the public know about the illuminati. Was he trying to break free and didnt want to coroporate anymore? Was he targeted at random?

I can't guarantee that my thoughts are correct, but I'll share them:
Jonghyun has more than once stated, that he doesn't like to lie to people. In Interviews and his radio show he always expressed the desire to show his real personality - not the fake and idealized one. That's why he sometimes spoke up about controversial issues (politics, LGTB rights, mental diseaseas), which you simply aren't allowed to do in Korea - especially not as an idol. Idols have to live up to everyone's expactaions: the fan's , the entertainment's and the public in genaral.
Someone who has his own mind and doesn't pursue your purposes is an obstacle and a danger.
Furthermore, he wanted to produce the music he liked - not necassarily the music the entertainment made him sing. Maybe they sensed that he was trying to break out of their control and that was a risk they were not willing to take.

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

For the most part, I don’t think there are any trolls or jealousy in this thread, SHinEeHeaven. From my own perspective, and that’s not say mine is right by any means, but I think VC members are innately interested in why it’s so active.

To put into context, in less than two weeks, this thread has 72 pages and counting. Many VC forum members have been here for quite a while and have not seen any topic discussed as incessantly and feverishly as Kpop. If you look through the threads throughout the forum, with the exception of some threads in the Lounge, there aren't too many topics that have that many pages and within such a short time span.

Therefore, I don’t think anyone should take offence to the curiosity from other members coming to this thread and wanting to know what the e-chatter is all about. Most of the comments made by other members who aren't familiar with Kpop appear to be sincere in their posts in wanting to know why it’s such a hot topic, that’s all.

That said, it’s nice too see you've all been able to find a place to discuss something that you've wanted to for a while.

Anyway, I didn’t mean to interrupt. Welcome to the forum - carry on.

will there is many here came and attacked many of the posters just because they are posting, obviously there is many trolls unless you haven't checked all of the comments

 

[Orwell's mentor]

will there is many here came and attacked many of the posters just because they are posting, obviously there is many trolls unless you haven't checked all of the comments

I guess it's all perspective. I don't see any member "attacking" anyone, unless they're writing something about you personally. That said, you've only been here a week and they don't know you so I don't know what they'd really say about you. They may disagree with what you have to say, or have expressed, but I don't see that as an attack. On a forum, you're going to have people that disagree with you, and that's all good. So long as people remain respectful to the person behind the computer screen and keyboard, variances of opinions will arise when discussing things on a forum.

In the end, just agree to disagree.

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

I guess it's all perspective. I don't see any member "attacking" anyone, unless they're writing something about you personally. That said, you've only been here a week and they don't know you so I don't know what they'd really say about you. They may disagree with what you have to say, or have expressed, but I don't see that as an attack. On a forum, you're going to have people that disagree with you, and that's all good. So long as people remain respectful to the person behind the computer screen and keyboard, variances of opinions will arise when discussing things on a forum.

In the end, just agree to disagree.

it wasn't me at all, I am talking about others, I think saying they don't have life is insulting. and having trolls is something expected anywhere in the internet

but any way, lets agree to disagree

 

[lee_]

But why jonghyun? Other than is age and his likablility? Was he about to expose the korean illuminati? Celebs in the west have been offed when they have tried to let the public know about the illuminati. Was he trying to break free and didnt want to coroporate anymore? Was he targeted at random?

I am sure it wasn't random. My best guess would be, he'd been showing symptoms of depressions and he also talked about it with his friend and family. I remember someone here mentioned that everyone in Kpop is a product and each of them has an expiry date. You can't be a celebrity and have depression at the same time in the Korean entertainment industry. Either you get out, like Choa of AOA did or you stayed but suffer the consequence of being got rid of by your own people.

This is what Choa wrote as her farewell letter by the way, sounds familiar?

“Hello, this is Choa.

I was very grateful and sorry that so many people took interest in my sudden hiatus. This is a bit late, but I want to tell you the reason why I had to rest and the decision that I came to after lots of deliberation.

Since AOA wasn’t a team that immediately received a lot of love when we debuted, I had always been grateful for the love we got and I think preciously of it.

Although I was the oldest on the team, I’m still very young and I wanted to cry a lot of times while working. However, I know that the reason you like me is because of my bright image. Although I was crying in my heart, I had to look happy. This happened repeatedly, and the more I forced myself, I found myself becoming sicker and sicker.

To treat my insomnia and depression, I tried taking medication and started decreasing my work two years ago. However, because the problem didn’t stem from being tired, I ended up stopping all of my activities.

I tried hard to get back to work while thinking of those who were waiting for me, but I felt that if the negative attention of my hiatus continued, this would be even more detrimental to the team members.

After speaking with our company, I am leaving the team called AOA today, and I’m going to be cheering on my fellow members.

Over the past eight years while I prepared to become a celebrity and worked as one, I learned a lot of things. I think that even this difficult moment is a process for me to grow. I am 28 years old this year, and going forward, I will be reflecting on my chaotic self. For the remainder of my 20s, I would like to fill them with different experiences that are befitting of my age.

As of now, I am not thinking about doing any work outside of my individual work that was already planned. Someday, when I no longer feel scared and feel that I can show a better side of me, and if there are still people who cheer me on, I would like to return. I am a lacking person, but to those who keep cheering me on and worry for me, I would like to give my sincere thanks. To the members who I have been with for so long, and to those who helped me overcome what I lack so that I can be loved, and to those who loved me and AOA, thank you very much from the bottom of my heart.”

 

[Marouli]

I like your point on "to have the mass get accustomed to a similar way of thinking,styling etc.". They do the same thing for beauty pageants in South Korea, the contestants of Miss Korea 2013 came under attack since they looked strikingly similar (compare the picture above and below):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314647/Has-plastic-surgery-20-Korean-beauty-pageant-contestants-look-Pictures-contest-hopefuls-goes-viral.html

Oh yes I remember that incident clearly,thanks for bringing it up! I also remember that even Korean people were puzzled bc they couldn't tell them apart and thought that it was like seeing the same person.Yes,the promoting of a same type of thinking is real,that's why k-idols look the same and even talk the same,it's like they share one single mind.It's not their fault though,I blame the companies for all this mess.It's like in Jonghyun's case, who became depressed bc he couldn't express his real emotions to the public.I think most of the idols especially those who were trainees at a young age sadly can't figure out who they truly are and which are their real personalities.They've been programmed and tutored for years on how to act and behave themselves and that made them unable to develop their own unique personality.If I recall correctly,I remember one time when Taemin admitted that he would tell many lies,the mc's asked him the reason behind that and he said that he doesn't truly know,it was something spontaneous bc he would feel like he should be telling only the things that public wanted to hear.(Something like this along the lines).I also witness the same type of thinking when it comes to fandoms,for example I really like Bts and V is my bias wrecker but unfortunately can't bring myself into becoming an Army bc their fandom consists of many immature fans who always try to bring people down by attacking them if they happen to have a different opinion on a specific matter and don't always agree with the Army 'norm'.For me it's not a fandom anymore,it's a cult.