Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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BoA's '내가 돌아 (NEGA DOLA)' Music Video Analysis (Part 1)

I have no doubt that SM definitely has something to do with Jonghyun's death, considering the weird themes they have been throwing out through their female artists. The following scenes are taken from one of BoA's latest Music Videos titled '내가 돌아 (NEGA DOLA)'. It was supposed to be a breakthrough of BoA's comeback, though I personally think it failed as a comeback. Not only because it's not suitable for BoA, but also this MV got overshadowed by Red Velvet's 'Bad Boy', which was released only 2 days before this MV. Bad timing, SM. As ironic as it sounds though, this particular MV does have the same underlying message as RV's 'Bad Boy', which is: Celebrating the killing of men.

Shall we get started? Although, if you don't mind, first you may want to check out only the 0:27-0:31 part where she made an emphasis on the lyrics NEGA DORA, the RA part just rings a bell.


It reminds me of this MV by 2NE1 where they danced in front of a giant pyramid, singing (though more like chanting to me), and suddenly a creepy voice screamed "RA!" on 2:48-2:54.


What's creepy about this? It's just a way to make those songs sound lively. I have to disagree though. The first time I watched 2NE1's '내가 제일 잘 나가(I AM THE BEST)' back in 2011, I knew that "RA" part was just so wrong. Not to mention that the dance itself looks like a ritual. Okay so, what's the deal with the word "RA"? What's so creepy about that?

When you talk about NWO (New World Order), you just can't take out the Ancient Egyptian influence in it. The NWO is not all about Horus and his all-seeing eye, in fact, Horus was believed to later merge with a more ancient, more powerful god named Ra.

From Wikipedia:​



Ra (/rɑː/;[1] Ancient Egyptian: rꜥ or ; also transliterated rˤw; cuneiform: ri-a or ri-ia)[2] or Re (/reɪ/; Coptic: ⲣⲏ, ) is the ancient Egyptian sun god. By the Fifth Dynasty in the 25th and 24th centuries BC, he had become a major god in ancient Egyptian religion, identified primarily with the noon sun.​


In later Egyptian dynastic times, Ra was merged with the god Horus, as Ra-Horakhty ("Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons"). He was believed to rule in all parts of the created world: the sky, the earth, and the underworld.[3]


All forms of life were believed to have been created by Ra, who called each of them into existence by speaking their secret names. Alternatively man was created from Ra's tears and sweat, hence the Egyptians call themselves the "Cattle of Ra". In the myth of the Celestial Cow it is recounted how mankind plotted against Ra and how he sent his eye as the goddess Sekhmet to punish them. When she became bloodthirsty she was pacified by drinking beer mixed with red dye.​







At some point, the right eye of Horus, with its solar symbolism, was naturally associated with Re, and became the Eye of Re (Ra). Re was said to be the "father of the gods," for he was their head and king, as well as the father of humanity, and, according to some ancient myths, all living creatures that were believed to grow from his sweat or tears. The tears were produced from the Eye of Re, which was separable from him with a mind of its own. Once when it did not return, Re sent Shu and Tefnut to get it, the Eye stubbornly resisted, and in the struggle shed tears; from the tears, men grew. Perhaps this myth emerged because the Egyptian words for "tears" and "men" share a similar sound (On a side note, this may also explain why glamorizing the killing of men is a thing now).​




The core image of the Eye of Ra is the south Egyptian cobra, known for its ruthlessness. The Eye of Ra was a symbol of royal majesty, of the power of life and death, of the ability to control the people and destroy the enemies of Ra.​

What I'm trying to say is, that "RA" word is not a gimmick. I'd compare it with a product commercial in a movie (aka product placement/embedded marketing), in which the actor is seen using, for example, a mobile phone from the S company, and later you will see the S logo in the rolling credits as one of the sponsors. The conclusion is... This whole entertainment industry is brought to you by Ra, and he may not be the only 'sponsor' here but he's like, the boss of the rest. This is not by any mean, an attempt to glamorize Ra or the rest of Ancient Egyptians gods, I'm talking about a real demonic entity that has been worshiped since BC. Yes, we are very much in the era of modern idolatry.

Let's get started now.

See the number 9 on all the shooting targets? I know a thing or two about shooting to say that those shooting targets aren't normal. That number indicates the score you will get if you hit the center part of the target, and the normal score is 5. No matter what kind of shooting targets; B-27, B-29, or B-34, the normal score is 5. The point is, they put that number 9 there on purpose. Why? Because that number means so much for them.

Occult Numerology and the Number Nine (9)


Ancient Occult History and the Number Nine

Ancient Greek pagans held nine sacred because to them nine symbolized the 9 Muses or sister goddesses, daughters of Zeus and Mnenosyne, who were believed to preside over mankind's activities on earth. Their names were--Calliope, Clio, Erato, Euterpe, Melpomene, Polyhymnia, Terpsichore, Thalia, Urania.​


Nine was also a significant number to the Etruscans. These ancient pagan people from north west Italy worshipped nine gods. Nine was also a holy number in Rome. According to Texe Marrs, "the Romans honored the goddess Nundina by holding a purification ceremony for male infants on their nineth day of life. In addition, every ninth year the Romans held a feast in memory of the dead."​


Satanists and the Number Nine

Satanists take delight in the number nine for a couple of reasons. First, Satanists enjoy reversing, mirroring and inverting symbols, letters and numbers. When you turn the number "9" upside down you get "6" which makes up the number of the Beast (666) as revealed in Revelation 13:18 in the Bible. Second, Satanists take perverse pleasure in commemorating the death of Christ and the death of Christ is associated with the number nine. Mark 15: 34-37 reveals that Christ spoke his last words on the Cross of Calvary at the ninth hour and "gave up the ghost (died)."​


Masonic Orders and the Number Nine

According to the book "Numbers: Their Occult Power and Mystic Virtues" by W. W. Wescott nine holds great significance among many Masonic orders and secret societies. He said, "There is a Masonic order of Nine Elected Knights in which nine roses, nine lights, and nine knocks are used." In fact the number nine is the number of "the earth under evil influences."​


In summary, the number 9 is an important numeric symbol to many occult groups and sole practitioners. Unlike the number 13 that almost all people know has some superstitious implications, the number 9 would be considered "just another number" by the average person.​




9, is considered to be Satan's number - not '666' as people are led to believe (Rev.13:16-18). If 666 is Man, then 999 would undoubtedly be man hung from the tree on theFool’ s Journey.


Doesn't the scene of BoA aiming a gun at someone remind you of something familiar?

The only difference would be, Seulgi didn't pull the trigger, while BoA did, 2 days later lol.
There's no questioning of what this MV is all about


They are dancing on what seems to represent a target point, or an all-seeing-eye at its best,

...which reminds me of where Jonghyun stood on his 'Shinin' MV.



Checkered board patterns, and what I believe to be a representation of Satan's horns, look at those hair buns.


The same one can be found on Red Velvet's Rookie.


She has grown quite some love in everything gun-related, I see. Look at how the room is upside down and she isn't (As above, so below). The room is painted in blood red, apparently, also Red Velvet's favorite color.


Animal mounts on the right. Well, hello... Baphomet.


This one is better explained in a gif.
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Mad so much?


Look what she found here, a finger gun?


Nah, it's deeper than that. She's pointing at Sirius (dogstar).


Compare the finger gun with this "pointing" hand sign, the finger gun uses index and middle fingers while "pointing" only use index finger, which is the case in this MV

The All-Seeing Eye is used to represent the planet Sirius. Sirius is important to the Hermetic magicians, and some of the programmers are deeply into hermetic magic. Satan is said to come from Draco or Sirius, esp. the dog star Canis major. Masonic programming may well have the "blazing star" portrayed in the programming as a pentagram, with the name Sirius. Sirius may represent the Master, the creator of the system in some systems where the programmer is steeped in Masonic philosophy. (http://www.whale.to/c/sirius.html)​

This newspaper is real (New York Herald Tribune), though the last edition came out in 1966. Guns N' Roses weren't around until 1985. In conclusion, this edition is fake and I can't find any copy of the exact same edition on the net anyway. Why would they use an-already-debunk newspaper to feature Guns N' Roses in this MV?


A spinning top. Reminds me of the movie "Inception".




One method for inducting children into a dissociative state is to have them look at a large spinning top, as the colours whirl around . Carousel rides have also been popular to induce trances.​


For a programmer to use an optical illusion, he would first submerge the victim into a drugged state with the appropriate mind altering music and sounds and then flash the illusion onto the wall that the victim was facing. With virtual reality the child can be immersed into a weird head trip.​

How would you love to get killed? By a single-shot? A revolver? Or a semi-automatic? Pick one wisely.

*grabs the severed hand*
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What is this couple doing here? Ugh, more like the kidnapper and the captive
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The captive (or the girl) got shot later.
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BoA being targeted on the head, or a representation of the third eye (chakra) / pineal gland / all-seeing-eye?
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Again, who shoots with one finger only? Smh. The official gesture of 'finger gun' uses two fingers and not just one.
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A solid proof that it's not a finger gun in the first place.
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Well, at least Mr. Bean agrees.


Brace yourself because someone is about to get killed
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To be continued (I can only attach 20 images at once)
Great analysis! What a creepy music video...I do wanna say though that my finger guns are always L shaped. :p I think that's the case for most people. Doesn't retract from the rest of your analysis tho
 

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Guys, I have a really sensitive question lol
What do you feel while/after watching kdramas?

I'm asking this because I don't really watch kdramas oftenly but when I do I have really gross feelings. I feel totally absorbed into it to that point my own reality seems to be dull and gray (although I was totally ok with my reality) and my brain understand that sh*t is going on and I don't understand why kdramas have such an effect for me (even if I don't like the actual series) lol. I even feel super sad after the end even if there was happy ending. I've been keeping myself away from it since May and yesterday decided to make an experiment and watch one. It hasn't been even a few minutes for me to feel myself in the total bottom and the only light was my computer screen lol
Not to mention sudden heart ache...........................................
Am I overanalyzing? Because it sounds super far-fetched lol
 

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BoA's '내가 돌아 (NEGA DOLA)' Music Video Analysis (Part 2)

Sorry it took a while to compress these gifs lol.

She shot someone but ended up getting herself shot in the eye. This is what happens when you play with fire.
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Some sexual reference
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Red Velvet's kind of fame

The netizens, as always, have something interesting to say about this
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I double-checked if the second statement is true, and it's not. However, BoA's Nega Dola and Red Velvet's Bad Boy do have some relation:

From colorcodedlyrics:

BoA's Nega Dola
Lyrics/작사: JQ, 강은유, 온결, 현지원, 보아
Composer/작곡: Afshin Salmani, Josh Cumbee, Sara Forsberg, 유영진
Arranger/편곡
: AFSHeeN, Josh Cumbee

Red Velvet's Bad Boy
Lyrics/작사
: JQ, 문희연
Composer/작곡: The Stereotypes, Maxx Song, Whitney Phillips, 유영진
Arranger/편곡
: The Stereotypes

유영진 (Yoo Young Jin) was a great singer in the 1990s-2000s lol. He wrote the lyrics of SHINee's Lucifer and many other suspicious songs. And JQ, he's young and talented. Also the one who wrote EXO's Kokobop and Power (both songs are demonic).

I must admit that I got the same feeling I got when I listened to Peek a Boo, and even Bad Boy. The music, the imagery, everything just reminds me of Red Velvet.

Does BoA want to be like Red Velvet?

The answer is yes, unfortunately.
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If she was dancing to some other not-so popular song, the reaction wouldn't be this great.


So SM tried to match the concept of BoA to those of younger artists such as Red Velvet (plus the dark imagery etc).

Again, the entertainment industry only sees these artists as products. No matter how talented they are, how popular they are, soon enough there will be replacements. I believe Red Velvet too will be replaced. It's just the way it goes out there.
 

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Guys, I have a really sensitive question lol
What do you feel while/after watching kdramas?

I'm asking this because I don't really watch kdramas oftenly but when I do I have really gross feelings. I feel totally absorbed into it to that point my own reality seems to be dull and gray (although I was totally ok with my reality) and my brain understand that sh*t is going on and I don't understand why kdramas have such an effect for me (even if I don't like the actual series) lol. I even feel super sad after the end even if there was happy ending. I've been keeping myself away from it since May and yesterday decided to make an experiment and watch one. It hasn't been even a few minutes for me to feel myself in the total bottom and the only light was my computer screen lol
Not to mention sudden heart ache...........................................
Am I overanalyzing? Because it sounds super far-fetched lol
I've posted about this before: https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-93560. I didn't talk in detail about the K-drama part though, only how to overcome the addiction. I recommend you to read this website:

Part 1
http://healthblog.yinteing.com/2013/09/22/you-know-you-are-a-korean-kmovie-drama-addict-and-how-to-manage-this-addiction/

Part 2
http://healthblog.yinteing.com/2013/09/24/how-to-overcome-addiction-towards-korean-drama-and-movies/

I think you can relate to some of the stuff mentioned there, they also provide the solution. Some of the worth-mentioning lines:

You ‘grieve’ or even cry after the show is over for days and even weeks until you get your next ‘fix’ whereby you repeat the same vicious cycle of watching again and again

Your real life seemed so colourless and meaningless compared to what you had watched. You feel sad and depressed

After the show is over, you spent hours and hours googling more information about the real life of your favourite characters.
 

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I've posted about this before: https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/kpop-satanic-illuminati-influence.2143/post-93560. I didn't talk in detail about the K-drama part though, only how to overcome the addiction. I recommend you to read this website:

Part 1
http://healthblog.yinteing.com/2013/09/22/you-know-you-are-a-korean-kmovie-drama-addict-and-how-to-manage-this-addiction/

Part 2
http://healthblog.yinteing.com/2013/09/24/how-to-overcome-addiction-towards-korean-drama-and-movies/

I think you can relate to some of the stuff mentioned there, they also provide the solution. Some of the worth-mentioning lines:

You ‘grieve’ or even cry after the show is over for days and even weeks until you get your next ‘fix’ whereby you repeat the same vicious cycle of watching again and again

Your real life seemed so colourless and meaningless compared to what you had watched. You feel sad and depressed

After the show is over, you spent hours and hours googling more information about the real life of your favourite characters.
Wooow, thank you!

I wonder why only korean dramas make such an effect...............
 

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in case you are interested, here is some proof it was real, the moon has changed in color not just in Japan
https://onehallyu.com/topic/623816-right-now-in-japan-the-moon-is-pearl-aqua/

here is another one from Indonesia


for me, it wasn't distraction, because I was sure 100% since hearing the news its murder, because I have seen many things similar to this before, its illuminati style of murder, many people have hard time understanding this because they are way too programmed to trust the media...but whatever, I was interested to know what possibly has happened to him after the death, and I am very spiritual person that believe in paranormal.

and thanks for explaining what Ranfan was saying, I also don't know about moon phase
for me, maybe if the proof came from an actual news outlet not related to kpop i'll consider it(although seeing how kpop now has transcends everything n even unrelated things are including kpop, maybe it won't change my mind afterall...medias are all under their thumbs, even science i believe...) i don't see any news sourced from other outlets than kpop fans...then again, maybe i don't really look far and beyond for it...
well, to each their own. i personally don't believe in this Jonghyun sending sign narration since it just goes against my religious beliefs even though i too, believe in spiritual n paranormal things, but i won't stop people who want to believe it, as long as they're not pushing that argument on people who have different opinion/beliefs on such matter. human minds work differently afterall and can't easily be changed, of course unless some mind controlling program are involved maybe.

BoA's '내가 돌아 (NEGA DOLA)' Music Video Analysis (Part 1)

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To be continued (I can only attach 20 images at once)
sorry to cut this since i don't want to overcrowd the page...but that's a creepy analysis...very thorough though, thanks much for it...although SM's creepiness no longer surprise anyone i guess since all their MVs now seem sinister(unless it has always been that way)...but seeing it in detailed explanation is even more frightening n eyeopening....and for the plastic surgery too, yeah, it is a great sin in my religion, but now with people over here idolizing Korean celebrities, i feel that they're ignoring the 'sin' part and just want to be pretty....well, i don't exactly blame Kpop n kdrama influences, these things seem to have been carefully planned, and spread, and normalized, and people are just weak minded and easily influenced when it comes to bad things. anyway, i just want to say thanks for all the infos you always translate and share in this forum, i'm very grateful to learn about them in such details, like with the Incheon terminal 2 and olympics and so on....actually the Incheon terminal 2 thing made me went to look in google map, and for some reason, even terminal 1's shape look...kind of similar though not exactly as blatant as terminal 2, which they claimed to be designed after some sort of phoenix bird and cultural thing...yeah right.


Guys, I have a really sensitive question lol
What do you feel while/after watching kdramas?

I'm asking this because I don't really watch kdramas oftenly but when I do I have really gross feelings. I feel totally absorbed into it to that point my own reality seems to be dull and gray (although I was totally ok with my reality) and my brain understand that sh*t is going on and I don't understand why kdramas have such an effect for me (even if I don't like the actual series) lol. I even feel super sad after the end even if there was happy ending. I've been keeping myself away from it since May and yesterday decided to make an experiment and watch one. It hasn't been even a few minutes for me to feel myself in the total bottom and the only light was my computer screen lol
Not to mention sudden heart ache...........................................
Am I overanalyzing? Because it sounds super far-fetched lol

I don't know, the time when i watched kdramas, they're pretty average and i might have gotten addicted to some but it never last that long...but i noticed the few recent years they've been trying to become 'edgier' and introduce all those time travelling, robot plot and so on...one thing that really turn me off is how they have this super-trend-following concept, wherein when say, law/time travel/medical/whatever setting is done by 1-2...all dramas suddenly go that direction like...what happen to variation? i hardly feel attracted to watch kdrama though sometimes i do read news about them and keep up with what's new n stuffs?


Also, what do you guys think about this recent MeToo movement in K-entertainment scene...? suddenly sex offenders are being outed left and right and some even came out to admit on their own....i find this somehow....really suspicious, we know the big devils are safe and sound and won't be outed, but to see all that have came out....idk....it's supposed to be good, but it doesn't feel....natural....i feel like this is part of a certain plot...and that all these revelation will lead to something....but idk what....i highly doubt there'd be much change in how the industry goes on...but i guess it should be good even if just a few 'small' ones were taken down....though it doesn't seem like anything would happen to them other than quitting here and there and writing apology letters....
 

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Guys, I have a really sensitive question lol
What do you feel while/after watching kdramas?

I'm asking this because I don't really watch kdramas oftenly but when I do I have really gross feelings. I feel totally absorbed into it to that point my own reality seems to be dull and gray (although I was totally ok with my reality) and my brain understand that sh*t is going on and I don't understand why kdramas have such an effect for me (even if I don't like the actual series) lol. I even feel super sad after the end even if there was happy ending. I've been keeping myself away from it since May and yesterday decided to make an experiment and watch one. It hasn't been even a few minutes for me to feel myself in the total bottom and the only light was my computer screen lol
Not to mention sudden heart ache...........................................
Am I overanalyzing? Because it sounds super far-fetched lol
I think when I do watch a sad part from a Korean drama, it feels like that part is going to be like "replay in my mind". I don't know who else that think like this but I think some parts from Korean dramas will makes people tend to see it more and more thanks because of it's dramatic taste. It will makes people hard to move on from a drama.

The more dramatic, the more we feels or think about it in a certain way that maybe some of us will ended up imagining things more and more related to a drama or something else.
 

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for me, maybe if the proof came from an actual news outlet not related to kpop i'll consider it(although seeing how kpop now has transcends everything n even unrelated things are including kpop, maybe it won't change my mind afterall...medias are all under their thumbs, even science i believe...) i don't see any news sourced from other outlets than kpop fans...then again, maybe i don't really look far and beyond for it...
well, to each their own. i personally don't believe in this Jonghyun sending sign narration since it just goes against my religious beliefs even though i too, believe in spiritual n paranormal things, but i won't stop people who want to believe it, as long as they're not pushing that argument on people who have different opinion/beliefs on such matter. human minds work differently afterall and can't easily be changed, of course unless some mind controlling program are involved maybe.



sorry to cut this since i don't want to overcrowd the page...but that's a creepy analysis...very thorough though, thanks much for it...although SM's creepiness no longer surprise anyone i guess since all their MVs now seem sinister(unless it has always been that way)...but seeing it in detailed explanation is even more frightening n eyeopening....and for the plastic surgery too, yeah, it is a great sin in my religion, but now with people over here idolizing Korean celebrities, i feel that they're ignoring the 'sin' part and just want to be pretty....well, i don't exactly blame Kpop n kdrama influences, these things seem to have been carefully planned, and spread, and normalized, and people are just weak minded and easily influenced when it comes to bad things. anyway, i just want to say thanks for all the infos you always translate and share in this forum, i'm very grateful to learn about them in such details, like with the Incheon terminal 2 and olympics and so on....actually the Incheon terminal 2 thing made me went to look in google map, and for some reason, even terminal 1's shape look...kind of similar though not exactly as blatant as terminal 2, which they claimed to be designed after some sort of phoenix bird and cultural thing...yeah right.





I don't know, the time when i watched kdramas, they're pretty average and i might have gotten addicted to some but it never last that long...but i noticed the few recent years they've been trying to become 'edgier' and introduce all those time travelling, robot plot and so on...one thing that really turn me off is how they have this super-trend-following concept, wherein when say, law/time travel/medical/whatever setting is done by 1-2...all dramas suddenly go that direction like...what happen to variation? i hardly feel attracted to watch kdrama though sometimes i do read news about them and keep up with what's new n stuffs?


Also, what do you guys think about this recent MeToo movement in K-entertainment scene...? suddenly sex offenders are being outed left and right and some even came out to admit on their own....i find this somehow....really suspicious, we know the big devils are safe and sound and won't be outed, but to see all that have came out....idk....it's supposed to be good, but it doesn't feel....natural....i feel like this is part of a certain plot...and that all these revelation will lead to something....but idk what....i highly doubt there'd be much change in how the industry goes on...but i guess it should be good even if just a few 'small' ones were taken down....though it doesn't seem like anything would happen to them other than quitting here and there and writing apology letters....
yeah..i feel suspicious too.why after Jonghyun death,everything seems like wierd.Kpop,sex offenders,ivanka trump said that her kids into kpop,etc..and just now i saw on twitter people shocked with Olympic mascot that body like a bird with human head.I try not to relate with Jonghyun's death for sacrifice to anyone in k-industry but i don't know why it just seems so weird.Today also Shinee concert in japan.I saw a lot photos on twitter.There is one photo, i don't know what song where 4 of them in a circle and looking up to the sky.I don't know why it seems like 'ritual'.Sorry if i think too much and if you guys don't like it.
To be honest,i'm more interested to know about Jonghyun death because he is my bias until now.I can accept it if he died because he commit suicide due to depression.But if he was murdered to sacrifice anyone,i think it is too much.i wonder who 3 people involved as mentioned in previous post.If he was murdered not for sacrificed,what if it is actually other thing like betrayal.
 

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Guys, I have a really sensitive question lol
What do you feel while/after watching kdramas?

I'm asking this because I don't really watch kdramas oftenly but when I do I have really gross feelings. I feel totally absorbed into it to that point my own reality seems to be dull and gray (although I was totally ok with my reality) and my brain understand that sh*t is going on and I don't understand why kdramas have such an effect for me (even if I don't like the actual series) lol. I even feel super sad after the end even if there was happy ending. I've been keeping myself away from it since May and yesterday decided to make an experiment and watch one. It hasn't been even a few minutes for me to feel myself in the total bottom and the only light was my computer screen lol
Not to mention sudden heart ache...........................................
Am I overanalyzing? Because it sounds super far-fetched lol
I watch them sometimes they I watch the supernatural romance ones the most they are my favourite types they do make your life seem boring but its a fiction at the end of the day and a great way to escape from reality and enjoy something you know could never happen to you. Well, some make you cry some make you happy but the same for any movie or t.v shows Korean or English.
 
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BoA's '내가 돌아 (NEGA DOLA)' Music Video Analysis (Part 1)

I have no doubt that SM definitely has something to do with Jonghyun's death, considering the weird themes they have been throwing out through their female artists. The following scenes are taken from one of BoA's latest Music Videos titled '내가 돌아 (NEGA DOLA)'. It was supposed to be a breakthrough of BoA's comeback, though I personally think it failed as a comeback. Not only because it's not suitable for BoA, but also this MV got overshadowed by Red Velvet's 'Bad Boy', which was released only 2 days before this MV. Bad timing, SM. As ironic as it sounds though, this particular MV does have the same underlying message as RV's 'Bad Boy', which is: Celebrating the killing of men.

Shall we get started? Although, if you don't mind, first you may want to check out only the 0:27-0:31 part where she made an emphasis on the lyrics NEGA DORA, the RA part just rings a bell.


It reminds me of this MV by 2NE1 where they danced in front of a giant pyramid, singing (though more like chanting to me), and suddenly a creepy voice screamed "RA!" on 2:48-2:54.


What's creepy about this? It's just a way to make those songs sound lively. I have to disagree though. The first time I watched 2NE1's '내가 제일 잘 나가(I AM THE BEST)' back in 2011, I knew that "RA" part was just so wrong. Not to mention that the dance itself looks like a ritual. Okay so, what's the deal with the word "RA"? What's so creepy about that?

When you talk about NWO (New World Order), you just can't take out the Ancient Egyptian influence in it. The NWO is not all about Horus and his all-seeing eye, in fact, Horus was believed to later merge with a more ancient, more powerful god named Ra.

From Wikipedia:​



Ra (/rɑː/;[1] Ancient Egyptian: rꜥ or ; also transliterated rˤw; cuneiform: ri-a or ri-ia)[2] or Re (/reɪ/; Coptic: ⲣⲏ, ) is the ancient Egyptian sun god. By the Fifth Dynasty in the 25th and 24th centuries BC, he had become a major god in ancient Egyptian religion, identified primarily with the noon sun.​


In later Egyptian dynastic times, Ra was merged with the god Horus, as Ra-Horakhty ("Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons"). He was believed to rule in all parts of the created world: the sky, the earth, and the underworld.[3]


All forms of life were believed to have been created by Ra, who called each of them into existence by speaking their secret names. Alternatively man was created from Ra's tears and sweat, hence the Egyptians call themselves the "Cattle of Ra". In the myth of the Celestial Cow it is recounted how mankind plotted against Ra and how he sent his eye as the goddess Sekhmet to punish them. When she became bloodthirsty she was pacified by drinking beer mixed with red dye.​







At some point, the right eye of Horus, with its solar symbolism, was naturally associated with Re, and became the Eye of Re (Ra). Re was said to be the "father of the gods," for he was their head and king, as well as the father of humanity, and, according to some ancient myths, all living creatures that were believed to grow from his sweat or tears. The tears were produced from the Eye of Re, which was separable from him with a mind of its own. Once when it did not return, Re sent Shu and Tefnut to get it, the Eye stubbornly resisted, and in the struggle shed tears; from the tears, men grew. Perhaps this myth emerged because the Egyptian words for "tears" and "men" share a similar sound (On a side note, this may also explain why glamorizing the killing of men is a thing now).​




The core image of the Eye of Ra is the south Egyptian cobra, known for its ruthlessness. The Eye of Ra was a symbol of royal majesty, of the power of life and death, of the ability to control the people and destroy the enemies of Ra.​

What I'm trying to say is, that "RA" word is not a gimmick. I'd compare it with a product commercial in a movie (aka product placement/embedded marketing), in which the actor is seen using, for example, a mobile phone from the S company, and later you will see the S logo in the rolling credits as one of the sponsors. The conclusion is... This whole entertainment industry is brought to you by Ra, and he may not be the only 'sponsor' here but he's like, the boss of the rest. This is not by any mean, an attempt to glamorize Ra or the rest of Ancient Egyptians gods, I'm talking about a real demonic entity that has been worshiped since BC. Yes, we are very much in the era of modern idolatry.

Let's get started now.

See the number 9 on all the shooting targets? I know a thing or two about shooting to say that those shooting targets aren't normal. That number indicates the score you will get if you hit the center part of the target, and the normal score is 5. No matter what kind of shooting targets; B-27, B-29, or B-34, the normal score is 5. The point is, they put that number 9 there on purpose. Why? Because that number means so much for them.

Occult Numerology and the Number Nine (9)


Ancient Occult History and the Number Nine

Ancient Greek pagans held nine sacred because to them nine symbolized the 9 Muses or sister goddesses, daughters of Zeus and Mnenosyne, who were believed to preside over mankind's activities on earth. Their names were--Calliope, Clio, Erato, Euterpe, Melpomene, Polyhymnia, Terpsichore, Thalia, Urania.​


Nine was also a significant number to the Etruscans. These ancient pagan people from north west Italy worshipped nine gods. Nine was also a holy number in Rome. According to Texe Marrs, "the Romans honored the goddess Nundina by holding a purification ceremony for male infants on their nineth day of life. In addition, every ninth year the Romans held a feast in memory of the dead."​


Satanists and the Number Nine

Satanists take delight in the number nine for a couple of reasons. First, Satanists enjoy reversing, mirroring and inverting symbols, letters and numbers. When you turn the number "9" upside down you get "6" which makes up the number of the Beast (666) as revealed in Revelation 13:18 in the Bible. Second, Satanists take perverse pleasure in commemorating the death of Christ and the death of Christ is associated with the number nine. Mark 15: 34-37 reveals that Christ spoke his last words on the Cross of Calvary at the ninth hour and "gave up the ghost (died)."​


Masonic Orders and the Number Nine

According to the book "Numbers: Their Occult Power and Mystic Virtues" by W. W. Wescott nine holds great significance among many Masonic orders and secret societies. He said, "There is a Masonic order of Nine Elected Knights in which nine roses, nine lights, and nine knocks are used." In fact the number nine is the number of "the earth under evil influences."​


In summary, the number 9 is an important numeric symbol to many occult groups and sole practitioners. Unlike the number 13 that almost all people know has some superstitious implications, the number 9 would be considered "just another number" by the average person.​




9, is considered to be Satan's number - not '666' as people are led to believe (Rev.13:16-18). If 666 is Man, then 999 would undoubtedly be man hung from the tree on theFool’ s Journey.


Doesn't the scene of BoA aiming a gun at someone remind you of something familiar?

The only difference would be, Seulgi didn't pull the trigger, while BoA did, 2 days later lol.
There's no questioning of what this MV is all about


They are dancing on what seems to represent a target point, or an all-seeing-eye at its best,

...which reminds me of where Jonghyun stood on his 'Shinin' MV.



Checkered board patterns, and what I believe to be a representation of Satan's horns, look at those hair buns.


The same one can be found on Red Velvet's Rookie.


She has grown quite some love in everything gun-related, I see. Look at how the room is upside down and she isn't (As above, so below). The room is painted in blood red, apparently, also Red Velvet's favorite color.


Animal mounts on the right. Well, hello... Baphomet.


This one is better explained in a gif.
View attachment 4250

Mad so much?


Look what she found here, a finger gun?


Nah, it's deeper than that. She's pointing at Sirius (dogstar).


Compare the finger gun with this "pointing" hand sign, the finger gun uses index and middle fingers while "pointing" only use index finger, which is the case in this MV

The All-Seeing Eye is used to represent the planet Sirius. Sirius is important to the Hermetic magicians, and some of the programmers are deeply into hermetic magic. Satan is said to come from Draco or Sirius, esp. the dog star Canis major. Masonic programming may well have the "blazing star" portrayed in the programming as a pentagram, with the name Sirius. Sirius may represent the Master, the creator of the system in some systems where the programmer is steeped in Masonic philosophy. (http://www.whale.to/c/sirius.html)​

This newspaper is real (New York Herald Tribune), though the last edition came out in 1966. Guns N' Roses weren't around until 1985. In conclusion, this edition is fake and I can't find any copy of the exact same edition on the net anyway. Why would they use an-already-debunk newspaper to feature Guns N' Roses in this MV?


A spinning top. Reminds me of the movie "Inception".




One method for inducting children into a dissociative state is to have them look at a large spinning top, as the colours whirl around . Carousel rides have also been popular to induce trances.​


For a programmer to use an optical illusion, he would first submerge the victim into a drugged state with the appropriate mind altering music and sounds and then flash the illusion onto the wall that the victim was facing. With virtual reality the child can be immersed into a weird head trip.​

How would you love to get killed? By a single-shot? A revolver? Or a semi-automatic? Pick one wisely.

*grabs the severed hand*
View attachment 4252

What is this couple doing here? Ugh, more like the kidnapper and the captive
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The captive (or the girl) got shot later.
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BoA being targeted on the head, or a representation of the third eye (chakra) / pineal gland / all-seeing-eye?
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Again, who shoots with one finger only? Smh. The official gesture of 'finger gun' uses two fingers and not just one.
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A solid proof that it's not a finger gun in the first place.
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Well, at least Mr. Bean agrees.


Brace yourself because someone is about to get killed
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To be continued (I can only attach 20 images at once)
The girl target was being shooted for 8 times in the face. As for some guns with the numbers on it, maybe it represent something like a year?
2012 2015 2019.
Just my opinion.
 

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Guys, I have a really sensitive question lol
What do you feel while/after watching kdramas?

I'm asking this because I don't really watch kdramas oftenly but when I do I have really gross feelings. I feel totally absorbed into it to that point my own reality seems to be dull and gray (although I was totally ok with my reality) and my brain understand that sh*t is going on and I don't understand why kdramas have such an effect for me (even if I don't like the actual series) lol. I even feel super sad after the end even if there was happy ending. I've been keeping myself away from it since May and yesterday decided to make an experiment and watch one. It hasn't been even a few minutes for me to feel myself in the total bottom and the only light was my computer screen lol
Not to mention sudden heart ache...........................................
Am I overanalyzing? Because it sounds super far-fetched lol
I watch A LOT of Kdramas but they dont tend to do that to me. So far, four years of watching kdramas, I’m not really addicted. I can go days and weeks without watching them and I definitely do.

But one thing I do know is that KDRAMAS have actors and all, but the plots are all reflections of Korean society etc. Of course not the Gods and the Goblins and the time traveling, but the cult and the corruption are all what’s happening in Korea.
 
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yeah..i feel suspicious too.why after Jonghyun death,everything seems like wierd.Kpop,sex offenders,ivanka trump said that her kids into kpop,etc..and just now i saw on twitter people shocked with Olympic mascot that body like a bird with human head.I try not to relate with Jonghyun's death for sacrifice to anyone in k-industry but i don't know why it just seems so weird.Today also Shinee concert in japan.I saw a lot photos on twitter.There is one photo, i don't know what song where 4 of them in a circle and looking up to the sky.I don't know why it seems like 'ritual'.Sorry if i think too much and if you guys don't like it.
To be honest,i'm more interested to know about Jonghyun death because he is my bias until now.I can accept it if he died because he commit suicide due to depression.But if he was murdered to sacrifice anyone,i think it is too much.i wonder who 3 people involved as mentioned in previous post.If he was murdered not for sacrificed,what if it is actually other thing like betrayal.
Yeah, i feel you. tbh i'm not a fan of Jonghyun (or anyone from the big3 or even other big names in kpop for that matter)...but the details and things revealed surrounding his death were just so shady that made me think it couldn't be as simple as they're trying to made it seem, somehow it doesn't seem like he's going to commit suicide at all...at least not at such timing, at least for me it just doesn't add up especially with the timing his album about to be released and all, unless he's trying to avoid something more sinister that were to come n couldn't be avoided, although it still seems more unlikely that it's suicide to me from all the statements that came out, the so called will/letter his friend kept being one of the things that i find most questionable/shadiest. and it's also this incident that really hit me hard on how serious things are and that it's not just idols doing illuminati signs and so on in MVs (well, i should've remembered that from Ladies Code...my bad..but i guess car accidents made it easier to seem believable even if there were already signs indicating something else...)...even MVs now have been severely blatant...those days you'd see some one eye thing and it'd already look evil but now, MVs have becoming sooo much worse that whenever singer i actually like would release a new one, i'd get nervous thinking how bad it would be...in fact, a lot of kpop MVs seem to have this ritual-like scenes. If he was really suicided it's really unfortunate, but i feel there are people whose eyes are opened because of this, albeit how little the number, so i'd like to think his sacrifice was not entirely for naught/wasted if it can open some eyes.
 
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Guys, I have a really sensitive question lol
What do you feel while/after watching kdramas?

I'm asking this because I don't really watch kdramas oftenly but when I do I have really gross feelings. I feel totally absorbed into it to that point my own reality seems to be dull and gray (although I was totally ok with my reality) and my brain understand that sh*t is going on and I don't understand why kdramas have such an effect for me (even if I don't like the actual series) lol. I even feel super sad after the end even if there was happy ending. I've been keeping myself away from it since May and yesterday decided to make an experiment and watch one. It hasn't been even a few minutes for me to feel myself in the total bottom and the only light was my computer screen lol
Not to mention sudden heart ache...........................................
Am I overanalyzing? Because it sounds super far-fetched lol
I watch it to kill time when I have nothing else to do. I'm not getting too deep into characters. I just watch the story line and clothes that they wear. They have strong fashion game in dramas. Maybe it's just me but if drama has more than 12 episodes I can't watch it because I got bored easly. But I do get addicted to kpop songs easly if the lyrics can relate to my life.
 

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BoA's '내가 돌아 (NEGA DOLA)' Music Video Analysis (Part 1)

I have no doubt that SM definitely has something to do with Jonghyun's death, considering the weird themes they have been throwing out through their female artists. The following scenes are taken from one of BoA's latest Music Videos titled '내가 돌아 (NEGA DOLA)'. It was supposed to be a breakthrough of BoA's comeback, though I personally think it failed as a comeback. Not only because it's not suitable for BoA, but also this MV got overshadowed by Red Velvet's 'Bad Boy', which was released only 2 days before this MV. Bad timing, SM. As ironic as it sounds though, this particular MV does have the same underlying message as RV's 'Bad Boy', which is: Celebrating the killing of men.

Shall we get started? Although, if you don't mind, first you may want to check out only the 0:27-0:31 part where she made an emphasis on the lyrics NEGA DORA, the RA part just rings a bell.


It reminds me of this MV by 2NE1 where they danced in front of a giant pyramid, singing (though more like chanting to me), and suddenly a creepy voice screamed "RA!" on 2:48-2:54.


What's creepy about this? It's just a way to make those songs sound lively. I have to disagree though. The first time I watched 2NE1's '내가 제일 잘 나가(I AM THE BEST)' back in 2011, I knew that "RA" part was just so wrong. Not to mention that the dance itself looks like a ritual. Okay so, what's the deal with the word "RA"? What's so creepy about that?

When you talk about NWO (New World Order), you just can't take out the Ancient Egyptian influence in it. The NWO is not all about Horus and his all-seeing eye, in fact, Horus was believed to later merge with a more ancient, more powerful god named Ra.

From Wikipedia:​



Ra (/rɑː/;[1] Ancient Egyptian: rꜥ or ; also transliterated rˤw; cuneiform: ri-a or ri-ia)[2] or Re (/reɪ/; Coptic: ⲣⲏ, ) is the ancient Egyptian sun god. By the Fifth Dynasty in the 25th and 24th centuries BC, he had become a major god in ancient Egyptian religion, identified primarily with the noon sun.​


In later Egyptian dynastic times, Ra was merged with the god Horus, as Ra-Horakhty ("Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons"). He was believed to rule in all parts of the created world: the sky, the earth, and the underworld.[3]


All forms of life were believed to have been created by Ra, who called each of them into existence by speaking their secret names. Alternatively man was created from Ra's tears and sweat, hence the Egyptians call themselves the "Cattle of Ra". In the myth of the Celestial Cow it is recounted how mankind plotted against Ra and how he sent his eye as the goddess Sekhmet to punish them. When she became bloodthirsty she was pacified by drinking beer mixed with red dye.​







At some point, the right eye of Horus, with its solar symbolism, was naturally associated with Re, and became the Eye of Re (Ra). Re was said to be the "father of the gods," for he was their head and king, as well as the father of humanity, and, according to some ancient myths, all living creatures that were believed to grow from his sweat or tears. The tears were produced from the Eye of Re, which was separable from him with a mind of its own. Once when it did not return, Re sent Shu and Tefnut to get it, the Eye stubbornly resisted, and in the struggle shed tears; from the tears, men grew. Perhaps this myth emerged because the Egyptian words for "tears" and "men" share a similar sound (On a side note, this may also explain why glamorizing the killing of men is a thing now).​




The core image of the Eye of Ra is the south Egyptian cobra, known for its ruthlessness. The Eye of Ra was a symbol of royal majesty, of the power of life and death, of the ability to control the people and destroy the enemies of Ra.​

What I'm trying to say is, that "RA" word is not a gimmick. I'd compare it with a product commercial in a movie (aka product placement/embedded marketing), in which the actor is seen using, for example, a mobile phone from the S company, and later you will see the S logo in the rolling credits as one of the sponsors. The conclusion is... This whole entertainment industry is brought to you by Ra, and he may not be the only 'sponsor' here but he's like, the boss of the rest. This is not by any mean, an attempt to glamorize Ra or the rest of Ancient Egyptians gods, I'm talking about a real demonic entity that has been worshiped since BC. Yes, we are very much in the era of modern idolatry.

Let's get started now.

See the number 9 on all the shooting targets? I know a thing or two about shooting to say that those shooting targets aren't normal. That number indicates the score you will get if you hit the center part of the target, and the normal score is 5. No matter what kind of shooting targets; B-27, B-29, or B-34, the normal score is 5. The point is, they put that number 9 there on purpose. Why? Because that number means so much for them.

Occult Numerology and the Number Nine (9)


Ancient Occult History and the Number Nine

Ancient Greek pagans held nine sacred because to them nine symbolized the 9 Muses or sister goddesses, daughters of Zeus and Mnenosyne, who were believed to preside over mankind's activities on earth. Their names were--Calliope, Clio, Erato, Euterpe, Melpomene, Polyhymnia, Terpsichore, Thalia, Urania.​


Nine was also a significant number to the Etruscans. These ancient pagan people from north west Italy worshipped nine gods. Nine was also a holy number in Rome. According to Texe Marrs, "the Romans honored the goddess Nundina by holding a purification ceremony for male infants on their nineth day of life. In addition, every ninth year the Romans held a feast in memory of the dead."​


Satanists and the Number Nine

Satanists take delight in the number nine for a couple of reasons. First, Satanists enjoy reversing, mirroring and inverting symbols, letters and numbers. When you turn the number "9" upside down you get "6" which makes up the number of the Beast (666) as revealed in Revelation 13:18 in the Bible. Second, Satanists take perverse pleasure in commemorating the death of Christ and the death of Christ is associated with the number nine. Mark 15: 34-37 reveals that Christ spoke his last words on the Cross of Calvary at the ninth hour and "gave up the ghost (died)."​


Masonic Orders and the Number Nine

According to the book "Numbers: Their Occult Power and Mystic Virtues" by W. W. Wescott nine holds great significance among many Masonic orders and secret societies. He said, "There is a Masonic order of Nine Elected Knights in which nine roses, nine lights, and nine knocks are used." In fact the number nine is the number of "the earth under evil influences."​


In summary, the number 9 is an important numeric symbol to many occult groups and sole practitioners. Unlike the number 13 that almost all people know has some superstitious implications, the number 9 would be considered "just another number" by the average person.​




9, is considered to be Satan's number - not '666' as people are led to believe (Rev.13:16-18). If 666 is Man, then 999 would undoubtedly be man hung from the tree on theFool’ s Journey.


Doesn't the scene of BoA aiming a gun at someone remind you of something familiar?

The only difference would be, Seulgi didn't pull the trigger, while BoA did, 2 days later lol.
There's no questioning of what this MV is all about


They are dancing on what seems to represent a target point, or an all-seeing-eye at its best,

...which reminds me of where Jonghyun stood on his 'Shinin' MV.



Checkered board patterns, and what I believe to be a representation of Satan's horns, look at those hair buns.


The same one can be found on Red Velvet's Rookie.


She has grown quite some love in everything gun-related, I see. Look at how the room is upside down and she isn't (As above, so below). The room is painted in blood red, apparently, also Red Velvet's favorite color.


Animal mounts on the right. Well, hello... Baphomet.


This one is better explained in a gif.
View attachment 4250

Mad so much?


Look what she found here, a finger gun?


Nah, it's deeper than that. She's pointing at Sirius (dogstar).


Compare the finger gun with this "pointing" hand sign, the finger gun uses index and middle fingers while "pointing" only use index finger, which is the case in this MV

The All-Seeing Eye is used to represent the planet Sirius. Sirius is important to the Hermetic magicians, and some of the programmers are deeply into hermetic magic. Satan is said to come from Draco or Sirius, esp. the dog star Canis major. Masonic programming may well have the "blazing star" portrayed in the programming as a pentagram, with the name Sirius. Sirius may represent the Master, the creator of the system in some systems where the programmer is steeped in Masonic philosophy. (http://www.whale.to/c/sirius.html)​

This newspaper is real (New York Herald Tribune), though the last edition came out in 1966. Guns N' Roses weren't around until 1985. In conclusion, this edition is fake and I can't find any copy of the exact same edition on the net anyway. Why would they use an-already-debunk newspaper to feature Guns N' Roses in this MV?


A spinning top. Reminds me of the movie "Inception".




One method for inducting children into a dissociative state is to have them look at a large spinning top, as the colours whirl around . Carousel rides have also been popular to induce trances.​


For a programmer to use an optical illusion, he would first submerge the victim into a drugged state with the appropriate mind altering music and sounds and then flash the illusion onto the wall that the victim was facing. With virtual reality the child can be immersed into a weird head trip.​

How would you love to get killed? By a single-shot? A revolver? Or a semi-automatic? Pick one wisely.

*grabs the severed hand*
View attachment 4252

What is this couple doing here? Ugh, more like the kidnapper and the captive
View attachment 4253

The captive (or the girl) got shot later.
View attachment 4260

BoA being targeted on the head, or a representation of the third eye (chakra) / pineal gland / all-seeing-eye?
View attachment 4254

Again, who shoots with one finger only? Smh. The official gesture of 'finger gun' uses two fingers and not just one.
View attachment 4258

A solid proof that it's not a finger gun in the first place.
View attachment 4259

Well, at least Mr. Bean agrees.


Brace yourself because someone is about to get killed
View attachment 4261

To be continued (I can only attach 20 images at once)

As Lee was talking about the hand sign :Screenshot_20180202-184035.pngLook at Jonghyun's "Fortune Cookie" message again... I talked about the number 22 on it before. However, the handsign is just the same that Lee found in BoA's MV. And the fingertip is pointing at Jonghyun. (Isn't a fortune cookie there to predict your future?)

There are also some more things about "Shining":
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As we talk about Jonghyun dancing at a target point... just look above him. The disco ball seems to reflect an eye. And on the left and right side of it we can see the colours red and blue. It is as if the elite is watching over the whole situation and targeting Jonghyun for some reason.

Here we can see the eye looking at him (without him noticing):Screenshot_20180127-204511.png

The colours red&blue appear again at another point of the MV:
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And again these colours - this time with Jonghyun showing us one-eye symbolism (which also appears quite often in the MV like someone here has already pointed out):
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Now back to the disco ball:
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Jonghyun looking up to the disco ball - maybe becoming aware of them (the elite watching over him) or their deeds in the industry?

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Here we see Jonghyun becoming curious and actually touching the disco ball. It made me think that maybe he found out too much about the elite or tried to get a better understanding of them. That's why he became their target.

We have seen Jonghyun in the target position before - it was during his "Inspiration" promotions:SHINee-Jonghyun_1480904318_af_org.jpg
Also we can see his hands bound - meaning that he was not able to do anything against the elite. There are some more observations I made about "Inspiration", "Shinin'" and other K-Pop videos, but I will post it later (or tomorrow) as I am only able to upload 10 files at once.
Even Guns n' Roses appears in Jonghyun's MV as well (just like in BoA's).
 
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yeah..i feel suspicious too.why after Jonghyun death,everything seems like wierd.Kpop,sex offenders,ivanka trump said that her kids into kpop,etc..and just now i saw on twitter people shocked with Olympic mascot that body like a bird with human head.I try not to relate with Jonghyun's death for sacrifice to anyone in k-industry but i don't know why it just seems so weird.Today also Shinee concert in japan.I saw a lot photos on twitter.There is one photo, i don't know what song where 4 of them in a circle and looking up to the sky.I don't know why it seems like 'ritual'.Sorry if i think too much and if you guys don't like it.
To be honest,i'm more interested to know about Jonghyun death because he is my bias until now.I can accept it if he died because he commit suicide due to depression.But if he was murdered to sacrifice anyone,i think it is too much.i wonder who 3 people involved as mentioned in previous post.If he was murdered not for sacrificed,what if it is actually other thing like betrayal.
I'v seen some comment somewhere said that he/she have dream prior to Jonghyun death about him dying, and then when he was died, it was a beginning of new era(may be new world order), and it looks like its happening.

As for his death, I am sure 100% it was murder and have say it here many time, all fans should knows that even non-fans because its the truth, and we talked many time about it, I honestly don't get why people having so much hard time believing its murder, they can't stop believing the mainstream media even for once? all mainstream media lies all the time, I take everything they report with grain of salt.

and yeah I hope if these three people can be exposed, I really wished if someone could spread their pictures everywhere in the net, even if RanFan wasn't a right source(I believe him though) I am still sure its murder and there is someone sacrificed/murdered him based on predictive programming we talked about here before
 
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Guys, I have a really sensitive question lol
What do you feel while/after watching kdramas?

I'm asking this because I don't really watch kdramas oftenly but when I do I have really gross feelings. I feel totally absorbed into it to that point my own reality seems to be dull and gray (although I was totally ok with my reality) and my brain understand that sh*t is going on and I don't understand why kdramas have such an effect for me (even if I don't like the actual series) lol. I even feel super sad after the end even if there was happy ending. I've been keeping myself away from it since May and yesterday decided to make an experiment and watch one. It hasn't been even a few minutes for me to feel myself in the total bottom and the only light was my computer screen lol
Not to mention sudden heart ache...........................................
Am I overanalyzing? Because it sounds super far-fetched lol
I am kinda having same problem but not with Kdrama its Kpop, because I don't watch Kdrama
I even has stopped listening to Kpop before around one month and wrote about it here, but still Kpop is stuck in my mind too much and I get weird obsession over it despite not listening to it, also the Kpop celebrities stuck too much in my mind and I get day dreaming about them, and it turn me into hating my reality, but it has become much less since I have stopped listening but still hasn't gone away. I don't know why Kpop have that kind of effect on me.
but I think the absolute solution is to cut everything related to the source of obsession, it will be so hard at first but then slowly life will return normal.
 
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Yeah, i feel you. tbh i'm not a fan of Jonghyun (or anyone from the big3 or even other big names in kpop for that matter)...but the details and things revealed surrounding his death were just so shady that made me think it couldn't be as simple as they're trying to made it seem, somehow it doesn't seem like he's going to commit suicide at all...at least not at such timing, at least for me it just doesn't add up especially with the timing his album about to be released and all, unless he's trying to avoid something more sinister that were to come n couldn't be avoided, although it still seems more unlikely that it's suicide to me from all the statements that came out, the so called will/letter his friend kept being one of the things that i find most questionable/shadiest. and it's also this incident that really hit me hard on how serious things are and that it's not just idols doing illuminati signs and so on in MVs (well, i should've remembered that from Ladies Code...my bad..but i guess car accidents made it easier to seem believable even if there were already signs indicating something else...)...even MVs now have been severely blatant...those days you'd see some one eye thing and it'd already look evil but now, MVs have becoming sooo much worse that whenever singer i actually like would release a new one, i'd get nervous thinking how bad it would be...in fact, a lot of kpop MVs seem to have this ritual-like scenes. If he was really suicided it's really unfortunate, but i feel there are people whose eyes are opened because of this, albeit how little the number, so i'd like to think his sacrifice was not entirely for naught/wasted if it can open some eyes.
Not only his death is shady, in fact, the elite are mocking us by his death, they know that people are too stuck in the mainstream media that they will believe all of their BS that thrown at us, so they mock us, like his weird VCR in Germany, its mocking to us and him, they mock the sheeple that is watching his death without knowing it(it was the same time the VCR shown and the time his death reported), it can't be worse than that
 
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I didn't want to say this earlier but I find it VERY suspicious how there's 4-5 people who joined just in the past four days who have posted only in this thread and started arguments and then asked for "fanwars" to stop, and now there's someone (Realest Reality) who's saying the people asking for the fanwars to stop should be mods.

Sorry if RR isn't a shill/paid to cause this but I'm pretty sure the others, along with RanFan, aren't here by a happy coincidence. If (((they))) wanted to control the narrative here, then of course they'd pull something like this, and have someone shill for these newbies to be mods. Either that or they're clearly rabid kpop stans, that much was obvious. :/
Just to clarify, I've been lurking since this thread was only a couple of pages in. I only did make an account much, much later after the thread pretty much blew up.

And no, I'm not a shill. I even didn't take part in the fanwar argument at all cos I know it's pointless & detracts us from the main objective of this thread. My suggestion for moderators was not meant to filter out any analysis but more to getting rid (if possible) any comments that offers no substance to the main point of this thread and when the conversation started to divert to fanwar just like what happened a few pages back. For moderators, I was referring to ppl such as Jes, frozenrose, etc (sorry if I miss anyone else) who have been in this thread for at least quite some time, who have advocated for the fanwars to stop and who seem to be level-headed as to acting as watchdogs in this thread.

I hope that this clears out any misunderstanding... I have no malicious intent in any way nor I am collaborating with anyone over control in this thread. I don't even know RanFan or any other users in this forum at all. Believe whatever you want. But as to my true motive, I've already made it clear. I hope others won't think negatively of me. In the end, assignment of moderators is simply a lighthearted suggestion that I think would improve the focus of this thead.
 

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Just to clarify, I've been lurking since this thread was only a couple of pages in. I only did make an account much, much later after the thread pretty much blew up.

And no, I'm not a shill. I even didn't take part in the fanwar argument at all cos I know it's pointless & detracts us from the main objective of this thread. My suggestion for moderators was not meant to filter out any analysis but more to getting rid (if possible) any comments that offers no substance to the main point of this thread and when the conversation started to divert to fanwar just like what happened a few pages back. For moderators, I was referring to ppl such as Jes, frozenrose, etc (sorry if I miss anyone else) who have been in this thread for at least quite some time, who have advocated for the fanwars to stop and who seem to be level-headed as to acting as watchdogs in this thread.

I hope that this clears out any misunderstanding... I have no malicious intent in any way nor I am collaborating with anyone over control in this thread. I don't even know RanFan or any other users in this forum at all. Believe whatever you want. But as to my true motive, I've already made it clear. I hope others won't think negatively of me. In the end, assignment of moderators is simply a lighthearted suggestion that I think would improve the focus of this thead.
I do agree that moderators would make it much peaceful in here. Moderators would make it so that the topic remains on the illumanti and that this place is without bashing! I think it was a great idea
 
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