Is there any way MK Ultra programming can be broken?

[wrongfred]

I know this sounds delusional but imagine all the celebs and other people in public can be freed from their mind control and they could be normal people again...

 

[AwayFromDevilsDeception]

If there is some kind of key word they use to control them, like trigger words, then there would obviously be a way, a counter keyword/code, to set them back into their "initial" state?

But if they're in too deep and have been for a long time under that kinda spell, it needs a lot of time to heal, what with having foggy memories or blackouts that most likely are side effects from that kind of treatment. Assumptions, truly, but well.

Have you seen Captain America and the Winter solider? They've been feeding us content about their plans for so long, right there under our noses in movies -.-

This is pretty much them showing us how trigger words work to set a certain character/side/personality to their puppets to control them, after of course they have them trained and programmed to react to them on command. I think this kinda stuff happens in the military too, I think. Just an assumption. Pretty sure same thing happened to Black Widow with the whole Red Room training too, that's another example, if you're familiar with Marvel movies.

And check this out: the bad guy in the story, the bad organization (Hydra) and their NWO agenda. I don't know whether to laugh at their blatant arrogance and bluntness in yet such a subtle way, or laugh at how dumb we are. We really became consumers, being fed by the Elite, and manipulated right and left shamelessly.


They are pretty much saying their plan you know? They are creating diseases by sabotaging crops with Chemtrails they shoot in the sky with aircraft, poluting water and the atmosphere, they use nanotechnology I assume in vaccines or sthg worse, it's all about making money [create health hazards = people are sick and scared = make new vaccine = make money], and hormones enhancing in foodstock to get people sick and hormonaly-inbalanced for some = LGBTQ stuff), they monitor the whole media and banking systems so they create more infairness, burden to the masses, control what news they see, control their thought process in a way, they share only the content they want us to see, many educational systems around the world are flawed with useless stuff and controlled by the govt so people don't act out if there are too many critical thinkers who see the flaws in the society, they distract us with films and music industries from seeing the whole big picture, we are blind to all the subtle and subliminal messages through symbols and whatnot, it's everywhere even in many monuments or religious places. Let's not even bring in the mobile and auto-industry, they all are pushing for more AI tech, and it's already in the market, and robots and crazy things. There's already 3D printing and cloning etc...They're pushing more and more things that will destroy the whole of humanity by bringing more misery, crimes, injustice, strife in everyone's life. Nuclear weapons? Scare tactics and NATO, UN, North Korea is a CIA puppet, all involved with the Elite.

Just like Hydra, they are making life miserable on purpose in all aspects of our world, just so we'll have no other way out from it but to willingly give up our freedom and accept their help, their "fake" security.

They are sugarcoating it with marketing and psychological techniques that it's for the betterment of humanity to go for the tech, it's for the future, better lifestyle, safety.

They already have micro-chips in people. There's in Florida, and Wisconcin I believe, there have been some workers in a company that were implanted that RFID chip, already. They want to control us. How? Under one rule, one world, one brain, everyone connected with RFID chips -.-

 

[Helioform]

There are deprogrammers out there but they are very rare. Fritz Springmeier claims to be one, although I have heard of people actually getting worse after some time with him.

 

[Pandita]

There are deprogrammers out there but they are very rare. Fritz Springmeier claims to be one, although I have heard of people actually getting worse after some time with him.

Yes, I've read the same... and some claim to be deprogrammers and they turned out to be programmers... I feel bad for the victims.

 

[The Zone]

There are some who can de-program but it is never a perfect wash. Take celebrities as a sample size and see the amount of glitches from Britney Spears to Jim Carrey and whomever you choose to insert. We can see signs of long term ritual abuse when celebs have their melt downs and they are always taken to a place for reprogramming and for sci fi buffs -- replacement, altogether. People blur MKU and ritual abuse as being the same when it is only similar. There are varying methods which have been made better over time of mind control. Now, we are entering an age where forms of that can happen electronically and through drugs, food and even the air we breath. That kind of control is just to control or impede or open one to mass suggestion.

 

[Awoken2]

If there is some kind of key word they use to control them, like trigger words, then there would obviously be a way, a counter keyword/code, to set them back into their "initial" state?

But if they're in too deep and have been for a long time under that kinda spell, it needs a lot of time to heal, what with having foggy memories or blackouts that most likely are side effects from that kind of treatment. Assumptions, truly, but well.

Have you seen Captain America and the Winter solider? They've been feeding us content about their plans for so long, right there under our noses in movies -.-

This is pretty much them showing us how trigger words work to set a certain character/side/personality to their puppets to control them, after of course they have them trained and programmed to react to them on command. I think this kinda stuff happens in the military too, I think. Just an assumption. Pretty sure same thing happened to Black Widow with the whole Red Room training too, that's another example, if you're familiar with Marvel movies.

And check this out: the bad guy in the story, the bad organization (Hydra) and their NWO agenda. I don't know whether to laugh at their blatant arrogance and bluntness in yet such a subtle way, or laugh at how dumb we are. We really became consumers, being fed by the Elite, and manipulated right and left shamelessly.

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They are pretty much saying their plan you know? They are creating diseases by sabotaging crops with Chemtrails they shoot in the sky with aircraft, poluting water and the atmosphere, they use nanotechnology I assume in vaccines or sthg worse, it's all about making money [create health hazards = people are sick and scared = make new vaccine = make money], and hormones enhancing in foodstock to get people sick and hormonaly-inbalanced for some = LGBTQ stuff), they monitor the whole media and banking systems so they create more infairness, burden to the masses, control what news they see, control their thought process in a way, they share only the content they want us to see, many educational systems around the world are flawed with useless stuff and controlled by the govt so people don't act out if there are too many critical thinkers who see the flaws in the society, they distract us with films and music industries from seeing the whole big picture, we are blind to all the subtle and subliminal messages through symbols and whatnot, it's everywhere even in many monuments or religious places. Let's not even bring in the mobile and auto-industry, they all are pushing for more AI tech, and it's already in the market, and robots and crazy things. There's already 3D printing and cloning etc...They're pushing more and more things that will destroy the whole of humanity by bringing more misery, crimes, injustice, strife in everyone's life. Nuclear weapons? Scare tactics and NATO, UN, North Korea is a CIA puppet, all involved with the Elite.

Just like Hydra, they are making life miserable on purpose in all aspects of our world, just so we'll have no other way out from it but to willingly give up our freedom and accept their help, their "fake" security.

They are sugarcoating it with marketing and psychological techniques that it's for the betterment of humanity to go for the tech, it's for the future, better lifestyle, safety.

They already have micro-chips in people. There's in Florida, and Wisconcin I believe, there have been some workers in a company that were implanted that RFID chip, already. They want to control us. How? Under one rule, one world, one brain, everyone connected with RFID chips -.-

Hey that's my reality also, thanks. For a minute there I thought I was living on a different plane than anyone else.

 

[Helioform]

Yes, I've read the same... and some claim to be deprogrammers and they turned out to be programmers... I feel bad for the victims.

Me too. MK Ultra victims are supposedly around 5% of the population, but people are getting programmed by other means such as music, television, cinema movies, the MSM etc. The CIA figured out that MK Ultra doesn't work on all people, but by combining different methods, they are able to achieve it. It's a really insidious world of programming.

 

[Pandita]

Me too. MK Ultra victims are supposedly around 5% of the population, but people are getting programmed by other means such as music, television, cinema movies, the MSM etc. The CIA figured out that MK Ultra doesn't work on all people, but by combining different methods, they are able to achieve it. It's a really insidious world of programming.

Yes, it's horrible, that's why we have to be careful and analyze what we feed our minds, bodies and souls with.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

I think it gets broken through, its not an infallible system. Its a man-made pseudo-science and in actuality, from what I know, its a pretty ham-fisted approach. Its not wildly successful or reliable but when a person is traumatized so severely, especially when young, it can be effective. But its not a foolproof system. Im no expert though so this should become an interesting discussion.......

 

[TempestOfTempo]

There are some who can de-program but it is never a perfect wash. Take celebrities as a sample size and see the amount of glitches from Britney Spears to Jim Carrey and whomever you choose to insert. We can see signs of long term ritual abuse when celebs have their melt downs and they are always taken to a place for reprogramming and for sci fi buffs -- replacement, altogether. People blur MKU and ritual abuse as being the same when it is only similar. There are varying methods which have been made better over time of mind control. Now, we are entering an age where forms of that can happen electronically and through drugs, food and even the air we breath. That kind of control is just to control or impede or open one to mass suggestion.

"People blur MKU and ritual abuse as being the same when it is only similar."
An excellent point.

 

[Aero]

Good question. I don't believe in the concept of deprogramming. And from what I can tell it's just not necessary. The function of mind control is to hold a person in a specific state. That takes a ton of effort to accomplish because everything about humans is fluid. So what I'm saying is the rulers of the "program" must constantly get inside their victims heads. If they don't than the old triggers effect become mitigated by tolerance.

I've heard of a thing called total mind control. But I don't think it exists, or it's misleading at best. Because it's like I said. The mind and body want to stay in some sort of motion. That kind of tells me the whole point of all of this is the resistance aspect of control, and not some form of submission. Of course, I can only speak from personal experience and observation. Maybe some people do totally submit.

I still think all of this stuff is about weaponizing everything. It's not really about control by the literal definition. They are just driving people insane. That's not mind control. It's mind destruction.

 

[The Zone]

I can buy into the mind destruction part. More and more of what I see as being deemed normal behavior is less and less sane.

 

[MokurenAwakened]

If I may put in my opinion, the war we are fighting is both physical and spiritual. If you are a nondemonational Christian like me, the answer is to pray for your enemies. By this I mean that focus on a person or persons, recite the Lord's Prayer, and ask that he finds a way to fill them with the Holy Spirit.. This might cause something to happen to them, it may interrupt their programming, it may set them free, for God's will is stronger than mans.

 

[yiksmes]

What do they do these deprogrammers? Are they able to join all multi personalities into one or few? Or they teach you how to control them?

 

[yiksmes]

And check this out: the bad guy in the story, the bad organization (Hydra) and their NWO agenda. I don't know whether to laugh at their blatant arrogance and bluntness in yet such a subtle way, or laugh at how dumb we are. We really became consumers, being fed by the Elite, and manipulated right and left shamelessly.

That's since the first James Bond movies)
- Apparently Hydra is a parody/clone to S.P.E.C.T.R.E Special Executive for Counterintelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPECTRE#Parodies_and_clones

The Marvel Universe has the organizations HYDRA and A.I.M., which are both opposed by Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D., and are sometimes also opposed by Captain America and the other Marvel heroes, while the DC Universe came up with the organisation H.I.V.E. as an analogue to SPECTRE.

 

[Aero]

You can't deprogram your subconscious. That's just not how it works. People hate knowing that truth, but it is what it is. The function of memory in the human brain is basically infinite. This is why some of us try to highlight childhood abuse because it's really that serious. We have just normalized it too much and let ourselves be used as weapons.

It took me forever to realize I was being used as a weapon. That's what actually infuriates me the most. Not just getting in actual fights either. But all my opinions were weapons too. Like I was born equipped to crush dreams. And that's pretty messed up. I think that knowing the truth is fundamental to having a healthy mind.

People need to have self respect, and not feel like damaged goods.

 

[rainerann]

It would depend on many things that parallel basic abusive relationships. Breaking free from any abusive relationships requires taking risks that are difficult to be motivated to take because of the toll abuse takes on the mind, body, and spirit. The scope of the risk may also be limited by how isolated the person is by their abuser.

However, risk can be simple actions that serve to demonstrate that what a person is told during abuse is a lie. If the person realizes that what they believe is not true and wants to continue investigating this, we would call this 'deprogramming' essentially.

Although, the scope of the initial risk that opens up this possibility might be the size of a mustard seed and could take a very long time to realize in any way that is significant, but all you really have to do is learn to be observant of different situations. Every scenario has a series of probable outcomes. A basic example of this is like there is always a 50% chance that something will be true or false in a yes or no question. LIke in a restaurant, there is a 50% chance that someone will say yes, they can bring a bottle of ketchup to your table or no they can't bring a bottle of ketchup to your table.

Other situations work more like multiple choice questions, and if you observe them long enough, you will notice patterns that will determine how you can approach taking risks that will lead to a different outcome than the one that has become the norm. In this way, you can test what you are told to believe is true.

It is really very similar to the scenario of being afraid of flying. At some point, after you consider the reality of the fear and are able to face this, you get in a plane and face your fear.

The same scenario demonstrates how what we call programming works because people are controlled by their fears every day. A person who is afraid of flying avoids planes. So if you make someone afraid of something, you can essentially control what they do. The antonym of the fear is not the solution. Like if you are programmed to be religious, being an atheist is not going to be a solution. Truth is the solution and taking risks is a method of testing whether something is true or not. A victim of this sort of abuse has to learn to take a series of calculated risks, which can be very difficult if you are tired, struggling financially, or have other things that hinder the opportunity for thinking clearly.

At first, this has the potential to create harm as well, because the perpetrator will continue to see you as weak and only capable of being controlled with no independent identity of your own. It is as though they think your level of intelligence is what creates the relationship of abuser to victim and it is your fault that you are the victim. So they harass you because of lies they believe as well.

Although, because of all of this, anyone who breaks free from this will never be what someone considers normal. You just don't go on to live a normal life because this does not exist in a way that could be described as an aftermath. Like in world war 2, people rationed and behaved in ways that continued because the war continued. It didn't matter if you served in the war and returned before the war ended by some chance. Even if you weren't fighting the war, the fact the war was taking place required you to behave in ways that were unique.

In the aftermath of the war, this changed. Therefore, until we are living in a world that has abolished programs like MK ultra and hasn't just released some of the documents through the FOIA, people will still behave in ways that cannot be considered normal whether you are actively abused or recovering from the abuse.

 

[UnspokenSoliloquy]

Guys... reading this made me realize the Divergent series is about MKUltra. These people had to go through psychological tests to be placed in a facture. The people that were considered “bad” were the ones that were able to recognize that the fears that were presented to them was not real and that’s how they were able get out of tests. Those that were in dauntless were also the ones that couldn’t be controlled with the mind control serum. They killed them because of this.

I dont wanna spoil the series for anyone that hasn’t seen it but In the bigger picture of the story line, these people were pretty much test monkeys. Not only were they genetically modified people but their lives were so controlled that they didn’t know when they were in a false reality. It was the people in dauntless that had the free mindset to break out and find the truth.

The story was also twisted to show that these genetically enhanced people could be human

 

[Masked crusader7]

yes there is CAST THEM OUT IN JESUS CHRISTS NAME its demonic the tech they use demonic to witchcraft occultic and besides hollywood is all about controllling anyway its what you watch sir and how much your watching t.v

 

[Masked crusader7]

Me too. MK Ultra victims are supposedly around 5% of the population, but people are getting programmed by other means such as music, television, cinema movies, the MSM etc. The CIA figured out that MK Ultra doesn't work on all people, but by combining different methods, they are able to achieve it. It's a really insidious world of programming.

yup just pray for the people