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Yeon

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I'm not into astrology, but RM and I are both virgos (I share a birthday with JK). I think we are in a sense tortured by how many thoughts fill up our brains when it comes to information overload.

Edit: I did find it strange that he would laugh at such a question before answering.
I'm not deep believer in astrology so much but some of the more detailed reports and analysis kind of fits. Read an analysis about them being in "no-strings attached" relationships since people were talking a lot about potential scandals. But it did suggest Ta3 or $uga being more likely than the others to get involved, kind of what people were saying here. Again can never be sure.
 

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Absolutely. Just look at his body language. But he also looked nervous every time the Interviewers asked him about their mv and its meaning.
I'm also disappointed with RN's answers when they were asked bout "why should you spread love" kinda like that. I was expecting an amusing answer from a guy whose IQ is 148.. instead he just answered as if he never has that in his mind :(
 

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This one too (it's short). Watch Jimin.


It's difficult to tell since Korean men act different compared to other men. Jimin is, however, made to be the more effeminate one in the group.
agree though.. the way he sits looks more and more girly now, he looks more beautiful and soft too.. I know he might be shy but I don't see the old Jimin anymore tbh
 

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Check out @DailyMendesLife’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/DailyMendesLife/status/997865964002795520?s=09
Check out @DailyMendesLife’s Tweet: This is the clip your talking about right? Lmao you exaggerated the whole thing. There was no change in voice/tone (someone mentioned that there was a change in tone). Plus the whole lip bitting thing is actually nothing. He looks like he's listening to rm speak. When everyone kept mentioning a lip bite I thought it would be more sensual. Nothing seems strange at all. And I'm being a typical army getting offended over everything? If I was just a typical army I wouldn't have come looking for a forum like this. If I was a typical army who got offended at everything I would have left a long time ago.
Lol yes, I'm the only one in this thread, other forums, twitter etc who exaggerated this clip according to you. It's hilarious that you keep singling me out when all I did was agree with the poster haha others keep presenting you with more proof that you keep ignoring too. Also, I don't know how much more sensual you're expecting a lip bite to be in that situation.

Listen - if you don't want to believe it, that's your choice. Ignore all the receipts and call it a day.
 
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I agree so much and it looks like he is offering himself? The Shawn thing was obviously a message for him
Don't think it's a coicidence he is acting like this after we saw him using all that animal print in the video tbh maybe he has been picked for this role now

And he is looking more and more like Taemin, they are basically clones now :oops:
Its also a rumor that Shawn is gay and is dating girls to hide it.
 

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Yeah like not only the repercussions that came at the price of selling their souls for fame but also the addiction to the adoration. A double edged sword meaning again.
All I know is jungkook personally said that when he wrote the lyrics of magic shop he was thinking of armys, in his vlive he said, “
“Since it’s a fan song, I didn’t feel like this was really (music) work. I did it out of love for ARMYs”

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I always like a more like, soft and sensitive kinda guy but i think J!m is too much now.. he also doesn't have much muscles now which resulting his body to look more feminine
I agree. I find him too effeminate now as well. I watched some clips of him before the Wings era. He had more masculine energy back then, even though he was more boyish/childish in nature.
 

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All I know is jungkook personally said that when he wrote the lyrics of magic shop he was thinking of armys, in his vlive he said, “
“Since it’s a fan song, I didn’t feel like this was really (music) work. I did it out of love for ARMYs”

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Magic Shop does seem to me to be a song that comes from the heart. There was something a little juvenile in it. It was refreshing to read.
 

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I know that their lyrics tie in with the story line but considering the possibility that they rose to fame because of army, I think it could be about army. especially these parts:
"For you I could pretend like I was happy when I was sad -->they always do this
For you I could pretend like I was strong when I was hurt--> and this. just watch burn the stage
I wish love was perfect as love itself
I wish all my weaknesses could be hidden
I grew a flower that can’t be bloomed in a dream that can’t come true" --> "grew a flower" could mean to make a deal for success and fame, but at the end that success will have drawbacks and it won't work out how they expected it would (?)


"I'm so sorry but it's fake love, fake love, fake love" --> apologizing because they are hiding their true selves from us(?)

"You say I’m unfamiliar, changed into the one you used to like --> notice in v lives how they always mention they won't do this or that if army doesn't like it, so they changed for us, so that we would like them (?)
You say I’m not myself which you knew well" --> bts knows we love them for their authenticity in everything they do, jk even said that he doesn't like it when we say they changed etc


It could be interpreted in so many ways , sorry my answer is kinda vague
I was thinking similarly to you on this. When I first heard the song, I thought that it was directed at the fanbase. The 'fake love' line stood out the most. The MV confuses things though, which is making me think that the song may have other meanings additionally.

Slightly OT, but -

'I wish love was as perfect as love itself.'
'I grew a flower that can't be bloomed in a dream that can't come true.'

I wonder which one of them wrote these lyrics. The expression is beautiful.
 

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I don't know if the entire song (Fake Love) is about ARMY. I suggested a few pages back that the line "For you I could pretend I was happy when I was sad" could possibly be about them. It's hard to say!

I haven't read all of the lyrics yet.

BTS have said they're really happy with this album and are giving it more praise than they did their last. Maybe it is because they feel as if they're sharing true emotions? Then again, just how much did they contribute to the album? We know what they say and have the credits. I read somewhere they don't contribute as much as we think (something about the way their names are arranged in the credits). Never mind that, the take away from what I'm trying to say is maybe they're pleased with it because they get to reveal how they really feel.


It's such a unnecessarily dark concept. I like dark music and concepts sometimes but the notes released before the album dropped, the talk of suicide, the FL video...it's just too much.
 

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I watched Jimin's v live a while ago. nothing suspicious I just noticed he used a kitten filter and devil filter
I didnt watch his vlive but saw this:


Did he made that gesture randomly? I've seen a lot of celebrities doing it and it's related to the "three wise monkeys"



Three Wise Monkeys and their True Meaning



Richard Cassaro reveals original ancient significance of Three Wise Monkeys, "The Secret Occult Meaning of the “Three Wise Monkeys” Hidden by the Elite." Cassaro suspects Western Civilization's interpretation of the statues as often "turning a blind eye" to misbehavior, represents intentional attempt by elite to hide their truth. "The truth is far more potent, more self-empowering, more magical, and more spiritually uplifting than the Elite want the masses to know," contends Cassaro, "...together the three embody the proverbial principle to “See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil.” The proverb simply means to avoid exposing yourself to evil influences. Cassaro then makes a potent observation. Television, videos and music, are flooded, constantly with all forms of violent and despicable representations of this proverbial principle - in reverse! It's an overt attempt to make what was formally evil, a new norm! It's something to contemplate. It's preferred, you gaze upon images of the three wise monkeys and consider their personal import!

Its psychological,reference to humans ability to determine how they see the world around them by what kind of thoughts they let frequent their minds (conditioning of thought.) A man is what he thinks about all day. If you believe you see evil then it becomes real, if you convince yourself you hear evil then you will hear evil in everything, and if you speak evil then you are evil.
 

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I didnt watch his vlive but saw this:


Did he made that gesture randomly? I've seen a lot of celebrities doing it and it's related to the "three wise monkeys"



Three Wise Monkeys and their True Meaning



Richard Cassaro reveals original ancient significance of Three Wise Monkeys, "The Secret Occult Meaning of the “Three Wise Monkeys” Hidden by the Elite." Cassaro suspects Western Civilization's interpretation of the statues as often "turning a blind eye" to misbehavior, represents intentional attempt by elite to hide their truth. "The truth is far more potent, more self-empowering, more magical, and more spiritually uplifting than the Elite want the masses to know," contends Cassaro, "...together the three embody the proverbial principle to “See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil.” The proverb simply means to avoid exposing yourself to evil influences. Cassaro then makes a potent observation. Television, videos and music, are flooded, constantly with all forms of violent and despicable representations of this proverbial principle - in reverse! It's an overt attempt to make what was formally evil, a new norm! It's something to contemplate. It's preferred, you gaze upon images of the three wise monkeys and consider their personal import!

They talk about this a lot in interviews and in their CB show. It plays a huge part in the choreography.
 

Maggieca

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They talk about this a lot in interviews and in their CB show. It plays a huge part in the choreography.
so this sign is part of the choreo? well that's even more interesting

they are saying to "see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil" while they play with the evil concept in every video and song
Maybe is about conditioning the mind and telling the fans to stay in a state of ignorance
 
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