There is more in your response that I may reply to later, but the point above appears to be of the greatest importance. I understand that Muslims find an allusion to Muhammad in the later verses of Isaiah 42, and also in the mention of “another counsellor” in the NT.
Christians (as you know) identify the other counsellor as the Holy Spirit, but it is Isaiah 42 that I was thinking of.
Jews have long seen two very different aspects to their coming Messiah in their scriptures - Messiah Ben Joseph and Messiah Ben David and many passages allude to these apparently contradictory aspects. The Jews rationalise this difference by proposing two different Messiahs (as examined in this article):-
An exploration of the two different descriptions of the Messiah brought up in the book of Zechariah, the Jewish understanding of Messiah ben Joseph and Messiah ben David, and that Jesus fulfills both descriptions.
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The implications for Isaiah 42 will be evident to some.
1) you forgot that the holy spirit functions/acts through people.
so when Jesus said 'the spirit of truth will bring you all the truth and tell you what is to come'
'he will not speak of his own but only what he hears'
that sounds like a prophet
jesus said he had to go away for the comforter to come.
yet the disciples already had the holy spirit in them. why couldnt the holy spirit be in them at work whilst Jesus was still with them?
2) answer to the above question
in metaphysics...the Word/Logos is the eternal primordial ocean
in islamic sufism it has been symbolically called 'the primordial INK'
the Intellect (ie God) writes the record of all things with the Pen (not a literal pen, it is symbolic of power of creation)
the Intellect and the Pen represent 2 aspects of causation
the intellect is the idea..the pen is the creation itself
the idea here is that humans are drops from that ocean, or alternatively like drops of ink...
out of which our story is also written
likewise the intellect and the pen represent 2 aspects of our existence, the yin and the yang...the 2 olive trees of Zechariah 5.
with the 7 lampstands representing the 7 heavens (the macrocosmic side)..and the 7 channels to the lamps similarly representing
the microcosmic side of humans.
so hence in the Quran
It is Allah who has created seven heavens and of the earth, the like of them.
'of the earth' is a reference to the children of Adam (Adam is Earth)
as in we are microcosms of the 7 heavens, with the 7 chakras within us representing the 7 heavens.
again on this matter it was islam via prophet mohammad who ascended to the 7 heavens, giving us symbolic prophets representing each level
for example Jesus and John the baptist representing the etheric plane, the sacral chakra (which is connected with the Life Force, the fountain of life, the water and fertility amongst other things was manifested in the birth of both these prophets). i mean i wont go into too much detail but its like Aaron representing the 5th heaven which happens to be the throat chakra...do you need me to spell it out?
islam going deeper on these topics is because islam represents the post-causal aspect of metaphysics whereas the NT and Jesus represent the pre-causal LOGOS.
just as there is an intellect and the pen..we humans have creative powers both the mental and emotive side (which is mapped out in the kabballah tree of life system).
yin and yang...passive and active...what is destined vs what we create for ourselves
we can only create what we can conceive, with all our mental limitations..
this is akin to the system of Faith and Sonship vs Law and Slavery.
within islam, these are called Islam (submission) and Ihsan (which is too deep to get into).
ihsan btw is the highest level.
Yet we learn from paul that Law followed Faith..and Faith completed the Law.
you can also look at the analogy of a tree and the fruit.
there's a beautiful saying by Rumi
'to the philosophers, it would seem the Tree is the macrocosm...
but to the Arif (knower), the fruit is the true macrocosm.
had the garderner not desired the fruit, he would not have planted the tree'
now if you see the Tree as Jesus and the fruit as Mohammad
just as there's a tree and its fruits
you also have a shadow from that tree..
it is the shadow the antichrist represents and likewise it's fruits
the jews saw the shadows of the fruit and at that time, in the early 7th century
began to celebrate a jewish messiah who unlike Jesus
would judge them by their laws, unlike Jesus
who would bring the jews back to the holy land, defeat the byzantines ans sassanians etc
yet when the actual fruit came, it was Mohammad
for them to receive the shadow of these things they're going to look to the shadow of the tree
so it stands to reason that the downfall of islam and the evils done by muslims are materialising the 'apparent good' for the jewish nation and with it the appearance of the antichrist representing the shadow tree
it's also why the jews are trying to materialise things in reverse form from how they did in the 7th century
whereas before they used the EAST/Persia to attack the West/Rome (remember the sun rises in the East)
they've now used the west to attack the east and are especially hell bent on the destruction of muslims and PERSIA...
that is an attempt to reverse the polarity
the analogy of the tree and it's shadow also links to the Leviticus 26 promise from God, to punish them for their disobedience
'you will plant a seed in vain and not eat from its fruit' (or something to that extent)
so the occult elite amongst them realise a secret...
what about the SHADOW of said tree?
since the material world is the shadow...
as a consequence when i talk about the yin/yang side, the yin is the mental/left brain aspect and the yang is the emotive/right brain aspect..the mystical side.
they've simply decided to alter reality becoming blind to the yin/left brain/mental side..by ignoring the 'true reality' and focusing on the false and in the process, they've been able to use the right/brain side.
this coincides with kabballah's tree of death/qliphot system btw..
and it's why the anti-christ is symbolised in Zecheriah 11 and in islamic prophecy as
'blind in his RIGHT EYE' since the physical right eye represents the LEFT BRAIN
being 'blind' on the right symbolises being blind to the mental/yin side...and being blind in that means perversion of the law of God.
so i guess you're chuffed to peices for gay pride and masonic/illuminati owned jerusalem?
look at how you always somehow try to attack islam but it comes back at you?
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messiah ben joseph and messiah ben david actually do represent the yin/yang theme yet again...(i know what im talking about)
Jesus was the suffering servant and would return the davidic conquerer
yin and yang
but when it comes to Mohammed vs Jesus, this isnt 'left vs right' it is Islam and Ihsan, it is post-causal and pre-causal..
it is high..and higher. slave and son, law and faith.
it is the fruit and the tree..and both support each other..
as a consequence the yin/yang themes representing Jesus...also come true in Mohammad but on a smaller scale.
hence the Meccan period where Mohammad played a passive role in Mecca
and the Madani period where Mohammad played the actove role and became the ruler.
it is Jesus who is the Rock in Daniel 2...
who destroys the entire Image representing the Beast.
YET it was islam that conquered the 4 beasts of Daniel.
example
babylon still existed in the christian era
until islam came and destroyed babylon.
the persian empire was absorbed by islam, not by christianity.
the former greek and roman with it.
well, the majority of it, until the rise of colonialism which gives way to the end times beast (when the white horse of Rev 6 went on conquering), leading to the world wars, holocoast, bolshevik revolution (the red horse). followed by the dapplied horse and the new age of capitalism where the richer get richer and the poor get poorer (the scales) where the olive oil and wine (representing the jewish nation) are to be 'protected' (do not harm the oil and wine)...hence the constant protection of israel by the world number one superpower).
come to think of it, the only contribution christianity has made is to give us the new babylon and a new Beast system..
thanks..
the shadow represents the illusions and attachments of the physical world
the authentic fruit is not 'physical' it is spiritual. it is an inner state of being out of which also comes material success as a consequence
dont think islam's conquests are 'just material' because they were built upon a spiritual foundation built by Mohammad in MECCA when he was in a passive state..
the subsequent successes of islam are more akin to the successes of David and Solomon
they were righteous successes not to be confused with the false success represented by a purely materialist philosophy.
the shadow is materialism where the inner is non existant
richest in the physical world 'manifesting your desires' n all that is the equivalent of stealing the spiritual fruits of others through magic.
that philosophy is contrary to the philosophy of faith where you plant the seeds.
Your possessions and your children are only a trial, and Allah it is with Whom is a great reward.
(سورة التغابن, At-Taghaabun, Chapter #64, Verse #15)
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the early 7th century jews used the sassanid persians to defeat Heraclius and the byzantines, forced them out of Jerusalem.
The messiah ben JOSEPH was this guy
en.wikipedia.org
he was supposed to die...
and THEN the davidic conquerer was meant to come, as per ISAIAh 42!!
which is why Mohammad's arrival to Madina completely wrecked them..
i could again go on about this, i sort of have in the previous point but it's deeper than that since it also represents how these events fall in line with the antichrist manifestation.
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