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Strawberrypie said:
Skinship between teens and young adults looks a lot different than kpop fanservice. It's usually leg rubs, hugging and being close to each other. It's not butt or private rubs, kissing, playing with nipples or sucking their ears. It usually tapers off in early adulthood and can start again later in life.

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Thank you for this clip. Was the boy kissing his hand at the end? It’s not completely shocking to me as I’ve said I’ve seen european men be just as affectionate but I know some Americans who would see even this clip and feel a way about seeing the actions of the boys and would even call that gay. I remember recently reading a comment from a teacher in sk who is teaching English and she said that initially she was very put off by the affection she witnessed with young men, but noticed it’s become worse since the popularity of KPop and she’s starting to see it more with girls now.

It looks like KPop has taken something that’s innocent and basically perversed it in order to push the agenda and appease the pedos of the elite.
 
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queen82 said:
don't know why they weren't allowed to date girls, but they went out with him ...really weird
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An insider on another forum who claims to be a relative to one of the b+5 members and an industry worker says that it’s false about them not being allowed to date, says that’s not in their contract although it’s been in contracts for other companies. They just are not allowed to date army(can be fired), and not date publicly for safety reasons but they are indeed dating. A couple of them in committed relationships and a few who are dating casually, and the insider claims they’re all women.
 
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What I'll say about J!n is that he is a very cute person. The windshield wiper laugh is the best example. Yeah, he can be whiny at times, yeah he's immature and so on... but at the end of the day he has a lot of personality. He genuinely enjoys fishing, and likes going on fishing trips with other people. YG couldn't care less about fishing, he just goes with J!n because J!n likes the company and he wants to spend time with him.

His friendship with their trainer doesn't surprise me at all. There's a BH staff member that NJ goes out to eat with often. They are very close. YG is close with one of his stylists, one producer in particular. Jimin and his makeup artist are also very close, apparently. And basically all of the BH staff who work with BT5 regularly get a kick out of T@e's obsession with camera equipment, and the observations he makes. T@e is the easiest one for them to work with because he's so hilarious and different. T@e is one of those people that initially comes across as annoying but others eventually grow to love him. That being said, T@e also has a ton of high-end friends. So his popularity is why people gravitate toward him.

JK, from what I've heard, is a stuck-up brat with staff. High maintenance and difficult to reason with. JM can be high maintenance as well with the staff that are assigned to him. Yeah, there are staff that are assigned to JM. He has issues and they have to keep a close eye on him because of how unstable he is. JM has a history of breaking down backstage over minor things, or literally nothing. Staff have to talk him through it to keep him from losing it.

Regarding JH... uh, he has a unique reputation at BH. People are kind of intimidated by him. He's intense. A very commanding person, always in charge. What's always been so interesting to me about that, is that JH actually was the one who came up with BT5's name. Makes me wonder if he was originally meant to be the leader instead of NJ.
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Not surprised by the JH info, that’s exactly the vibe I get from him, and I think you’re onto something regarding him possibly being leader… I lowkey think RM’s leadership might be what’s presented (for show)but JH and RM might actually share in the duties with it actually falling on JH more.
Just an observation.
Also heard about how difficult JK is but I do believe he is a little monster that the company and members help to create with their constant putting him up on a pedestal… and it’s clear with the members that’s even a role unto itself… a role to play into their specific roles(ie make sure to praise the golden maknae).
 
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Bernidel said:
I wonder whose Idea was the fanservice? Cause when I first watched all this K-pop stuff I was really surprised by all these males touching one another while performing and reading how the fan's loved it....REALLY!
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On another forum someone claimed it was one of the big 3 (sme?)
 
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Kimiko said:
Yes I was shocked when i saw fan service for the first time

Cuz boy bands in the west,while playful with each other,never did fan service like kpop

1D were the most playful western boyband but they never grabbed each others butts or laid down on top of each other,not that I remember anyway

It's weird that the west is definitely more LGBTQ friendly and we dont perform fan service and especially not same sex fan service and asian countries are not really LGBTQ friendly yet their pop stars do all this same sex fan service

Make it make sense
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I think because eventually TPTB want it to be normalized everywhere and right now that’s not the case. So for SK, Kpop is used to normalize it so there won’t be such a stigma and for the West we use it through music, film and tv to try and show how normal it is, and it’s been working. There is still a stronghold here in the West with certain states who refuse to get on board but for the most part people are becoming more accepting and now more than ever kids are identifying as gender fluid.
 
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NGodsHnds said:
An insider on another forum who claims to be a relative to one of the b+5 members and an industry worker says that it’s false about them not being allowed to date, says that’s not in their contract although it’s been in contracts for other companies. They just are not allowed to date army(can be fired), and not date publicly for safety reasons but they are indeed dating. A couple of them in committed relationships and a few who are dating casually, and the insider claims they’re all women.
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ok thanks for the information ..
 
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NGodsHnds said:
Not surprised by the JH info, that’s exactly the vibe I get from him, and I think you’re onto something regarding him possibly being leader… I lowkey think RM’s leadership might be what’s presented (for show)but JH and RM might actually share in the duties with it actually falling on JH more.
Just an observation.
Also heard about how difficult JK is but I do believe he is a little monster that the company and members help to create with their constant putting him up on a pedestal… and it’s clear with the members that’s even a role unto itself… a role to play into their specific roles(ie make sure to praise the golden maknae).
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i heard that armies were hating on jk because they found out bighit dumbs down other members so jk's golden maknae persona can be more solidified.
 
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NGodsHnds said:
It really does break my heart! I mean truly for them and all those who suffer from abuse.
This was an industry that for so many years was apart of my life and I believed it was all I wanted to do, and I still wrestle with those feelings, thinking that somehow I can change it from the inside, share the gospel on as many sets and stages as I can. I do know there are people with great talent who are in the industry who have not seen how dark it is(there are levels), at every level it’s well known about the casting couch and escorting but not every actor is involved in that and certainly not in the satanic part of it( I wasn’t) and being used for their agenda at least not knowingly. TPTB are very selective and know whom to choose, it really is like a pimp choosing his girls, picking the broken, the vulnerable, the desperate, the money hungry, the faithless… if not already groomed and born into this industry they pick those whom they can have great influence over. They see who has influence, a following (social media), successful and they offer what seems like a sweet deal, it’s only after you sign that you start to see it’s more than “your talent” it’s about their agenda. Some are willing and some are forced using fear(trauma, abuse, sacrifice). I legit want not only these young men and many of our young people in entertainment to be free from this wickedness, I also pray for their souls, and just their general well being.
I know forces that want to rule this world are steadily planning the most aweful things to make the world they want happen but I think on God’s word and it gives me hope.
“He only is my rock and my salvation, my fortress; I shall not be shaken. On God rests my salvation and my glory, my mighty rock, my refuge is God.” (Psalm 62:6)

“Fret not yourself because of evildoers; be not envious of wrongdoers! For they will soon fade like the grass and wither like the green herb.” (Pslam 37:1)
and lastly
“I have said these things to you, that in me you have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world” (John 16:33)
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A good news is that Bil Gates has been arrested for child trafficking and about the Covid-19 vaccine! Hope this sheds light to the problem of p*dophilia and I too hope that affects the music industry a little...
 
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I honestly think j!m!n's flirty feminine persona is not real and really just his role in the group

Cuz on the run episodes, bon voyage he doesnt act like that at all

One reason I liked watching run episodes that about them playing physical sports/activities cuz you kinda get to see their real personalities

most men are super competitive about sports/games and they are no different

J!n and $uga and jK are super competitive with sports and their selfishness comes out when playing

One episode they were playing with pro gamers and j!n was seriously getting mad that one of them kept beating him in the game
 
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Kimiko said:
I honestly think j!m!n's flirty feminine persona is not real and really just his role in the group

Cuz on the run episodes, bon voyage he doesnt act like that at all

One reason I liked watching run episodes that about them playing physical sports/activities cuz you kinda get to see their real personalities

most men are super competitive about sports/games and they are no different

J!n and $uga and jK are super competitive with sports and their selfishness comes out when playing

One episode they were playing with pro gamers and j!n was seriously getting mad that one of them kept beating him in the game
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J!n is super competitive. JK is competitive too, but J!n has the most physical strength and he's the most fit of all the members. A lot of people don't realize this. There's an episode of Run where they had to do this tug of war puzzle game, and J!n was tied together with JK and another member, and he just dragged them across the floor.
 
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theartbook35 said:
What I'll say about J!n is that he is a very cute person. The windshield wiper laugh is the best example. Yeah, he can be whiny at times, yeah he's immature and so on... but at the end of the day he has a lot of personality. He genuinely enjoys fishing, and likes going on fishing trips with other people. YG couldn't care less about fishing, he just goes with J!n because J!n likes the company and he wants to spend time with him.

His friendship with their trainer doesn't surprise me at all. There's a BH staff member that NJ goes out to eat with often. They are very close. YG is close with one of his stylists, one producer in particular. Jimin and his makeup artist are also very close, apparently. And basically all of the BH staff who work with BT5 regularly get a kick out of T@e's obsession with camera equipment, and the observations he makes. T@e is the easiest one for them to work with because he's so hilarious and different. T@e is one of those people that initially comes across as annoying but others eventually grow to love him. That being said, T@e also has a ton of high-end friends. So his popularity is why people gravitate toward him.

JK, from what I've heard, is a stuck-up brat with staff. High maintenance and difficult to reason with. JM can be high maintenance as well with the staff that are assigned to him. Yeah, there are staff that are assigned to JM. He has issues and they have to keep a close eye on him because of how unstable he is. JM has a history of breaking down backstage over minor things, or literally nothing. Staff have to talk him through it to keep him from losing it.

Regarding JH... uh, he has a unique reputation at BH. People are kind of intimidated by him. He's intense. A very commanding person, always in charge. What's always been so interesting to me about that, is that JH actually was the one who came up with BT5's name. Makes me wonder if he was originally meant to be the leader instead of NJ.
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Hmmn I can possibly believe the part about jk and jm. At the same time people can say someone's stuck up or high maintenance for just being a serious individual that draws the line between being professional and casual. These personality descriptions given are all what we see and expect of them as observers...umm I think they are quite different from that behind the scenes.
 
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swayy000 said:
the fishing dates:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1164168907998912512
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1164201713860874240
and they went to six flags together... I guess their personal trainer was with them in the U.S. when they had their stadium tour
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and in the trainers instagram bio it says "worldwide cutie" ??? yeah there was definitely something between those two
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Definitely here in the West this could be construed as something more than friendship. In SK I have no idea.. I wonder...
 
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Another expose video about Kris Wu.

And this is why I say we really don't know these idols. If more armys had been interested in kpop groups outside of b*s, maybe they would have seen like I did that they all play a part. They all have the same recycled personalities..it's more obvious with girl groups since the character traits are narrowed down to about 3 lol. But still any fan will defend their idols to the death. And no one ever wonders why they are so sexy and intense on stage and big soft cuddly bears off?? Like every group (esp. boy group) is like this lmao.
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NGodsHnds said:
Thank you for this clip. Was the boy kissing his hand at the end? It’s not completely shocking to me as I’ve said I’ve seen european men be just as affectionate but I know some Americans who would see even this clip and feel a way about seeing the actions of the boys and would even call that gay. I remember recently reading a comment from a teacher in sk who is teaching English and she said that initially she was very put off by the affection she witnessed with young men, but noticed it’s become worse since the popularity of KPop and she’s starting to see it more with girls now.

It looks like KPop has taken something that’s innocent and basically perversed it in order to push the agenda and appease the pedos of the elite.
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Do you mean the part when the boys are walking down the hall? Men are very affectionate in a lot of cultures so that's not unusual to me. The weird part is the sexual play between members. That's not normally seen in cultures.
 
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Berrywon88 said:
Another expose video about Kris Wu.

And this is why I say we really don't know these idols. If more armys had been interested in kpop groups outside of b*s, maybe they would have seen like I did that they all play a part. They all have the same recycled personalities..it's more obvious with girl groups since the character traits are narrowed down to about 3 lol. But still any fan will defend their idols to the death. And no one ever wonders why they are so sexy and intense on stage and big soft cuddly bears off?? Like every group (esp. boy group) is like this lmao.
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Like someone else said about the new BH girl group, they'll flail themselves around, screech like dying cats and have the same handful of personalities. There's nothing original about them. Everything is part of the formula. Girls do better than boy bands, that's why they're finally debuting one again.
 
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