That's Jesus speaking in Isaiah. Muslims refuse to realise this, if they did then their whole weak argument falls apart.You are making a very weak and loose eisegesis of the limited appearance of the phrase in the Book of Revelation. It is never clearly stated in reference to Jesus, leaving aside how the author of the Book of Revelation clearly distinguishes Jesus and God as completely independent subjects.
A clear scripture is like what Seekinheart referenced before:
“I am the LORD; that is my name!
I will not yield my glory to another
or my praise to idols.
- Isaiah 42:8
There is nothing vague or symbolic about that. God is the sole God, there is no substitute or intermediary, likewise the strong condemnation of idols in this verse (just like in the commandments we find in Exodus and Deuteronomy).
That is not an argument. Frankly it's very poor faith argumentation towards Muslims. The concepts of Angels, Prophets and Revelations are Biblical typology appearing throughout all of the Old Testament. Islam is nothing new there.
Their scripture (Qur'an) is claimed (by itself) to be the literal speech of God addressing the Arab Prophet (Muhammad), summing and correcting things, addressing Jews, Christians and Pagans etc.
Your argument can easy be used by a Jew too btw, they can just say "why should I believe what Jesus says about Moses when I have the Torah?, Jesus is not a valid source of Torah". Do you see the problem there? it's just poor and bad-faith argumentation.
Yet even at that there is a Psalm attributed to Moses, so should we reject that because David lived way after Moses?
If the Qur'an, like the Torah or other books in the Bible, is the word of God, then whatever it says is completely significant and is exceedingly important in it's value with what it conveys, you cannot just dismiss something like that while also claiming to believe that God sends prophets and revelations.
To refute something you have to have strong argumentation, and that is purely weak from an objective Abrahamic POV. We do not suddenly become Atheists when it is convenient to us for our argument. We stay Theists who believe in the supernatural and argue from that, not ridicule the things we strongly believe in ourselves.
The main problem with Islam was known since its inception to be an offshoot of Christianity. That's why it picks and chooses OT verses while still claiming the name of Jesus. Muhammad would have never known about Jesus without the NT and from the Christians (his sister) of his time. I'll be frank and state the obvious, its a pseudo Christian cult. There wouldn't be as many Muslims as there are today if Islam wasn't forced on people by the sword. Any religion that forces people to convert with death being the consequence is a wicked false religion. I guarantee the people who were forced to convert didn't believe anything they were told about Islam, and rightfully so. The apostle Paul prophesied the coming of Islam in the book of Galatians.You are making a very weak and loose eisegesis of the limited appearance of the phrase in the Book of Revelation. It is never clearly stated in reference to Jesus, leaving aside how the author of the Book of Revelation clearly distinguishes Jesus and God as completely independent subjects.
A clear scripture is like what Seekinheart referenced before:
“I am the LORD; that is my name!
I will not yield my glory to another
or my praise to idols.
- Isaiah 42:8
There is nothing vague or symbolic about that. God is the sole God, there is no substitute or intermediary, likewise the strong condemnation of idols in this verse (just like in the commandments we find in Exodus and Deuteronomy).
That is not an argument. Frankly it's very poor faith argumentation towards Muslims. The concepts of Angels, Prophets and Revelations are Biblical typology appearing throughout all of the Old Testament. Islam is nothing new there.
Their scripture (Qur'an) is claimed (by itself) to be the literal speech of God addressing the Arab Prophet (Muhammad), summing and correcting things, addressing Jews, Christians and Pagans etc.
Your argument can easy be used by a Jew too btw, they can just say "why should I believe what Jesus says about Moses when I have the Torah?, Jesus is not a valid source of Torah". Do you see the problem there? it's just poor and bad-faith argumentation.
Yet even at that there is a Psalm attributed to Moses, so should we reject that because David lived way after Moses?
If the Qur'an, like the Torah or other books in the Bible, is the word of God, then whatever it says is completely significant and is exceedingly important in it's value with what it conveys, you cannot just dismiss something like that while also claiming to believe that God sends prophets and revelations.
To refute something you have to have strong argumentation, and that is purely weak from an objective Abrahamic POV. We do not suddenly become Atheists when it is convenient to us for our argument. We stay Theists who believe in the supernatural and argue from that, not ridicule the things we strongly believe in ourselves.
Galatiajs 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
According to the bible Islam is an accursed religion.