Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence
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XG started out like NewJeans, more subtle. Notice the Neon green lighting.
What does this remind you of? NewJeans teaser.
Going the Alien concept route allows XG to incorporate Saturn, Anubis, One Eye etc and say "It's just an Alien concept"
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XG's videos are very demonic I tried to watch the one that recently got viral but had to stop midway because all the satanic stuff shown made me feel uneasy.
I have some doubt about thatSo, Taemin is giving out these t-shirts or something to his fans and on the photo card is writtenx.com
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"Do your best and leave the rest to God"
The question is. Is this really about the Christian God?
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I feel bad for the idols who were in Superm. It was so obvious that project was nothing more than a money grab. Sometimes I hate idols for promoting agendas but then I remember how bad these companies treat them and I start to feel bad for them.
I feel bad for the idols who were in Superm. It was so obvious that project was nothing more than a money grab. Sometimes I hate idols for promoting agendas but then I remember how bad these companies treat them and I start to feel bad for them.
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Today for music bank Taemin brought Ashley Everett Beyonce's dance captain, Kany, and foreign dancers who have performed with Madonna and Beyonce as part of his dance crew.
Watching the performance I feel like Korean/Kpop backup dancers are good but not on the same level as western and especially black dancers. This dance crew blew it out of the park with their performance. After really long time I have seen a Kpop performance this good. Like, this was some real smooth dancing going on here. Black dancers are really on another level and deserve more appreciation 
Perioddddddd Thank you and yes I agree with everything you said.Today for music bank Taemin brought Ashley Everett Beyonce's dance captain, Kany, and foreign dancers who have performed with Madonna and Beyonce as part of his dance crew.
Watching the performance I feel like Korean/Kpop backup dancers are good but not on the same level as western and especially black dancers. This dance crew blew it out of the park with their performance. After really long time I have seen a Kpop performance this good. Like, this was some real smooth dancing going on here. Black dancers are really on another level and deserve more appreciation
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You're welcome!. I just wanted to appreciate the diversity. After all so much of Kpop is derived from black culture. Kpop wouldn't exist if we remove the influence of black culture from it
Yes Ashley Everett is very talentedToday for music bank Taemin brought Ashley Everett Beyonce's dance captain, Kany, and foreign dancers who have performed with Madonna and Beyonce as part of his dance crew.
Watching the performance I feel like Korean/Kpop backup dancers are good but not on the same level as western and especially black dancers. This dance crew blew it out of the park with their performance. After really long time I have seen a Kpop performance this good. Like, this was some real smooth dancing going on here. Black dancers are really on another level and deserve more appreciation
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I have a lot of thoughts on the super m and even s.m idols being 'overworked' theory a lot of people have, I've read up on and been privy of s.m artists since middle school in 2014. I also feel bad for them but at the same time, now my brain is developed and it's not clicking for me anymore. My pity is running very low. It's not wrong that they can be taken advantage of, but I think people miss some key details. A lot of American pop stars have diet plans and gym coaches before they do concerts, I even looked it up, it's very common. In fact even regular people have gym memberships and diet plans when they want to take care of their health.
For Korean celebs unless they are fitness oriented, it seems they do but specifically for the purpose of having temporary abs that look nice in the spotlight. Not for actually becoming healthy and building endurance.
Believe it or not American artists and even Japanese artists work way harder than Korean artists. Those American labels really want results. If you notice the behind the scenes in super m vids the Korean staff was in the back and it was Americans breathing down their necks. They truly did make them work hard, but they also got a lot of money upfront from capital records 5 million dollars. They did get a cut, and they said this out their own mouths on instagram live. They signed that contract for 8 years. They also got to have capital exec producers on their solo albums, that was also apart of their deal. Taemin literally had one of cardi b's producers on his album. They specifically joined super m, not because they had to but because their were benefits and lots of money attached. But they thrive off of getting their supporters to feel bad for them.
I don't really feel bad because to be real a lot of Exo, Shinee and kpop performances are very subpar if you actually pay attention. If they were american and not tik tokers they wouldn't be taken seriously. They benefit from 1d dying in like 2015 and Simon Cowell not really wanting to make another one. Lsm even tried to make an American boygroup in like 2018/19 but it failed. Exo's early wadrobe, a few of their songs and their boyish charm college aestetic was directly a response to 1d's popularity. It's just marketing. I don't believe the hype that they are so much harder working than any other boygroups because they arent. One direction was forced to help write songs and record them while on tour, and contribute to all their hits. Niall and other members also occasionally played instruments on their songs. All of this with only a few months of training before they were forced to go on tour, not 5-10 years of training.
1d had to contribute it wasn't a choice, if they refused and just accepted all the songs and didn't add anything they wouldn't of lasted even a year. Americans want at least some authenticity. Super m went to ellen for five minutes. What could she ask them? They don't, write, choreograph, some barely sing, the have no contribution to anything they do besides one or two things. Their staff write all their answers and personality down for them, and unlike people like Jb and selena gomez they don't have to interact with fans at all. They have thousands of photos taken over the period of the last decade. They have dozens and in some cases more than a hundred make a wishes they've done for kids all over the world. I'm sorry but I am so tired of this narrative that K-idols do so much and american celebs are so trashy.
A lot of these people don't even look at their fans in the eye if they aren't paying for it. Seeing these poor kids online is hurtful to me sometimes. These poor babies don't even understand how classist and racist some of the people they worship are.
Only official fan meeting that fans PAY FOR. This is not for free. S.m has policies that they don't have to interact with fans at all outside of official events and encourages them not to. Maybe every now and then they might give an autograph, a stiff wave and a smile, and you know that is fine, but the overworked allegations aren't adding up to me.
I can see Jb, selena and miley being tired and telling people to screw off, being stiff and unfeeling. They are probably numb from meeting hundreds of thousands of fans a year since they were 13, but how kpop fans gonna screw off they don't even interact with these people outside of what they pay for. Many don't even look these people in the eyes. Besides 'saesangs' who are basically just koreas version of paparazzi. Besides dispatch notice how paps in korea don't exist. No photos of Taemin or any s.m idols without makeup at the grocery store? It doesn't exist. Other than super fans rare super fans, they have a normal existence.
Besides taking photos to make a livelyhood for themselves these fans barely bother them, but will buy 50 cd's out of devotion.
Super m simply had to perform at a high level for an extended amount of time, because that's the standards in America, in Korea they can stop jump around, do fanservice and wear funny outfits. In america people want a serious performance like expected at a beyonce or taylor swift concert. If people saw the goofy things that go on at the typical exo concert in asia they would not consider them real artists. It's okay to play around but people was an artist actually performing seriously.
Bts was used to it because they had time to perform for American crowds, so they were fine, but even they struggled with the heavy workload. To me they seem much more in shape than most older s.m groups, this is counting exo.
Realistically a lot of s.m idols aren't in great shape and don't have good endurance. In some concert vids super m legitimately seemed out of breath only the nct members were keeping up physically. I understand people somewhat pitying them for their circumstances but a lot of these legacy groups don't be putting in real work like that. You have to remember they don't write, don't produce, the dancing is not up to par for professional dancing standards; even koreans dub it 'idol dancing' and 'idol singing'.
They pass out because they are malnurished from trying to portray the manga like beauty standards. It's not that bad in japan, they know how to take care of themselves and lots of the males and females although cute idols can keep up physically easily. Note the japanese members in nct and rize looking healthy and dancing for hours while some of the others pass out. Even thai performers in kpop groups are always very physically active. They know that health is a personal responsibility. For goodness sake, I even saw Lisa do Korean military training on a reality show once. The average kpop male would NOT be able to do this on their typical diets of fried chicken and alcohol. They just wouldn't.
I feel like people don't think of the personal responsibility aspect. I don't like Kpop companies, but these idols especially s.m idols are taking advantage of the 'blame the company narrative' and whining to fans online for pity. They know exactly what they are doing. People need to ask, why not simply start drinking protein shakes if food makes them 'too big' for kpop, going to consistent doctors appointments and taking their health into their own hands. Especially if they are millionaires, with at least 6 months off throughout the year. A lot are out of shape and eat lots of fried junk food and loads of alcohol and then when they pass out onstage it's deemed company abuse.
The amount of s.m idols passing out videos I've seen is ridiculous. Many from other groups as well, there's pieces of the puzzle being left out, it's sad but many are desperate for attention even pity, it can be considered a psychological disorder almost. Because a grown adult who's being recorded and constantly watched with financial resources would do anything to make sure that doesn't happen and that they are in the best shape of their lives.
Sorry for the rant, the narrative just is really bugging me, cause I've just seen too much to believe it, but yes it's okay to feel for them on a human level but they don't be doing all that much. These people are in reality barely seen and their content is sometimes filmed in a one month period every six months. They don't do as much as people think. Hanse from Victon even exposed how companies pay for awards and everything. S.m is king of buying their idols awards and giving them everything to succeed. Super m might of been the first time in years they actually had to try onstage. I also get bothered knowing how lots of these super talented kids are in fact just related to the higher ups and just don't say it. Those are the ones that really try to act innocent. It's all about connections///
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I love american dancers style and as I black person I ofc love black performance art. If this was a real show of diversity and simply for the art of it great. If they are getting black artists just to basically get more validity and improve their cool factor then it makes me a little hesitant. I just feel like after all kpop has used black producers and choreographers for years without ever showing their faces, or speaking their names in public. Meanwhile being colorist on their variety shows, I just feel like these use black people/culture when they feel it's beneficial and when they need to validate their work. But that's just my opinion...I'll just never get over how shinee's people bought Corbin bleu's song and shinee fans were racist to corbin for literally no reason. I think it's insecurity because honestly Corbin did it way better and was more natural, but still. Personally for my own peace I just don't even give any attention to K-pop in a music sense anymore. I hope it gets better, but realistically they just take-take-take and give nothing back, but if black artists are getting paid cool. But in reality I don't feel anything, my soul just side eyes artist like Tae so much. I don't even think he's dedicated enough to be a culture vulture. He just does whatever he can get away with artistically, he took from a lot of japanese artists as well and is called a visionary. I'd accept it if outside of this he had a real personality but he doesn't, s.m staff truly crafted a korean male britney spears.Today for music bank Taemin brought Ashley Everett Beyonce's dance captain, Kany, and foreign dancers who have performed with Madonna and Beyonce as part of his dance crew.
Watching the performance I feel like Korean/Kpop backup dancers are good but not on the same level as western and especially black dancers. This dance crew blew it out of the park with their performance. After really long time I have seen a Kpop performance this good. Like, this was some real smooth dancing going on here. Black dancers are really on another level and deserve more appreciation
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it's most likely just a front like every other music company. It's owned by a former rapper and has like 12 people in it. There was no reason for an established artist to go there unless there's some mess underneath the table. I feel like there's illegal activity going on, but ofc it's all hidden under mess and drama. A former s.m choreographer is a performance director there. Lmao lsm might be secretly investing in the company. Nothing changed except for the budget of his album which is most likely why he composed and wrote most of the songs. Simple fact that in a small company many artists can get a bigger cut of sales, and even have a stake in the company because it's small. S.m is too big with too many snakes in one pot, which is why people are leaving. The older snakes are being replaced by younger people and they don't like that. I never thought s.m idols would be dumb like this to get caught in something like this but they must be desperate. A sense a future burning sun scandal brewing; even that was just a cover for the nth room. They are too cocky because they are highly protected, you will never see a bad scandal for an s.m idol not really, only dumb stuff nobody actually cares about. But it's likely they are involved in the same activity maybe even worse. Lsm is like a cartoon villain, you can literally find his name attached to so many sketchy things, no doubt his underlings were involved.
As for the mind control, they literally have to do it. They don't just let these people walk around, free to go tattle all of their secrets to people. For the most part many of these people aren't even aware of half of what's going on. Not in a they are innocent way, just in a police dog way. Do police dogs understand everything police do. No, they just listen and do as they are told. But they still understand who's side they are on. You can't ever imagine people this involved in programming of the masses to see the light. There is no light to see, they cannot tell their fans anything, nor would their fans listen. Imagine trying to explain calculus to a baby, it's pointless. If at any point they want to quit and be normal, the spell of control they have on their fans would be broken by releasing bad videos and moments of them acting out. This is what happens to every disney kid.
In selena gomez's docu awhile ago she had to apologize to her parents because she has split personality or bipolar and would yell and say awful things to them. I believe they may have recording she would say really bad stuff. This is they type of stuff they have on them. In korea cctv is everywhere so it's probably worse for them. I can imagine the amount of times they may have snapped.
If he would leave and screw over his s.m connections, first they would ruin his fans perception of him, then the average korean's and if he's sloppy get him for any illegal activity he's done. That what happens to someone who's basically under gov protection and then decides to stop working with any intelligence agency, this is basically the priviledges celebs have. Many are basically c!a agents, many have same training as well. They are completely different than their celeb personas and many may either wear a mask or some type of disguise.
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My main response? The blame can go two ways. Celebs get coached to emotionally manipulate and the average woman doesn't guard her heart it's two way street.
Most of fan interaction is company oriented. These people don't behave this way naturally, nor is the persona they show on variety or youtube actually them. It's like when people like a tv show, they don't care about the individual person only the character. Many have an artificial spiritual tie due to the nature of the music videos and the weird instagram eye contact sessions they do, this is a way to develop a spiritual emotional connection to someone. I don't speak on the fans because many are being mass manipulated. There's so many life factors that create the crazy fan, it's just a modern version of a 'jesus freak' but insert celeb here. If the person went up to them and slapped them mess out of them, the fan wouldn't like them anymore. They aren't that obsessed, they just are infatuated. For some people that's what it would take to snap out of it. That's a human being, not a fluffy baby. Humans are dangerous--a celeb can be anything, do anything, so you should always proceed with caution before feeling too bad. A man anywhere is a potential threat everywhere.
A lot of female fans would definitely go to a hotel room with a male idol. Not knowing what they would do. Many fans have ended up beaten and drugged thinking that way. I kinda feel for the celebs but I'll never fear for the safety of a grown adult man over young impressionable females. No not at all. Even these skinny malnourished men could really hurt a young female. They do this babying stuff because of marketing. A whole bunch of fans went with J@ckson W@ng to a hotel room. Could of ended up trafficked easily, extremely common all over the world, all types of men do it from rich to poor. It's kinda interesting how people worry about the safety of grown men being followed by tiny women. Was also into calling himself 'magic man' and speaking in the third person a lot. They don't know what entity he was channeling at that time.
The average male celeb is always channeling they are always trying to embody mj or 'micheal' the archangel. It's an actual ritual. Sucking women dry at every concert. Taking their energy before, after and during the concert. They always have some type of angel sigil when they do these things as well. It's in the show supernatural.
If people only knew what went on astrally they wouldn't feel so bad for all these male popstars. They be tired and depressed because they spirits are tired. Women especially pregnant women have divine protection and karma be catching up to all the energetic feeding that they do, but regardless of that.
It's an artificial attachment that companies make billions off of. Women tend to be emotional creatures, boy brands profit off of this. Asian girl groups cater to traditional female roles, males like this as do female lesbians, so in essence they do the same thing. Many cater to both. It's a job that for them they aren't even interacting with their fans a majority of the time. Their careers last 10 years if that and then they go onto do whatever they want.
Fans have the right to be sad, but in reality a lot of these fans don't gaf about these people and will replace them with a hobby or a tv show in about 3 months. People just like the accessibility of it. If kpop stops suddenly, people will just move onto something else. A lot tweet and create fan accounts because it's a business they don't really care about these people. They get tons of money selling fan cards and reselling albums, or making fan content.
I'm a woman and I can definitely say without a doubt if these girls had a real life emotional partner they actually were interested, that was just their ideal type they wouldn't be a fangirl. Boy-dolls are just fill in boyfriends for the most part. While girl-dolls are ideal role models. Many girl group fans also have insta-models as their pfp's. While boy group fans hardly discuss women at all. Many are fujoshi's and don't even want to think about the guys being straight. It's just female jealousy in different forms.
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Honestly, I was only appreciating the foreign dancers and pointing out how good they look compared to Korean dancers who look stiff and lack soul in most performances and I agree with your other post where you said Kpop idols look soulless and aren't as good as western or Japanese artists. Like, SHINee are considered one of the bests and even they have really bad performances where all they do is follow the dance steps and make some pre-planned facial expressions for viral hits. I honestly, hate the idol culture myself. They have some really talented vocalists and dancers but then they turn them into puppets of the system instead of encouraging them to make their own music and carve their own identity as artists. The whole idol promo circuit is them going on variety shows doing fanservice instead of talking about their music because most don't even participate in their album making process. Like look at Taeyeon that girl is called a legend but all she did is make her career by doing covers of songs made by western artists but she is praised to high heaven like she is some legend. D.O released basic ass pop after leaving SM which he didn't even produce himself but was being celebrated just because he can sing well. SM artists are not my favorite they are manufactured as hell. Even madam Boa the "Queen of Kpop" has no charisma and looks bored when performing even though she is a good dancer and singer but her solo is so bland and lacks personality. Taemin is actually one of the better ones to come out of the Pink company because at least he admitted in his recent interview that SM, JYP, YG, Hybe have set images for idols and how "Commercialized" his albums were before this. Like, at least he is trying to learn how to make his own music now and decided to learn how to sing well even though with his skills as a dancer he could easily survive in this industry like KAI or JM who both have stolen as much as him from black choreographers and can't even sing to save their lives. I mean how embarrassing it was that JM's fans got him a no1 on billboard and he couldn't even sing a note correctly during encore and KAI hasn't sung a live note in his live performances since his debut but still these people are praised like they are some legends. Taemin being called the idol of idols ain't the flex Kpop fans think it is because it shows how low the bar is for idols. Whatever he is praised for like learning how to sing well, trying to create his own identity or now trying to make his own music outside of Pinkshit are things that are expected of western artists and if they don't do it these artists are trashed. Like Selena who is mocked everywhere for not being able to sing even though I swear she sings better then 4th gen idols. Have you heard Lesserafim, IVE, Twice or Illit live?? these girls can't sing to save their lives but they are entering global charts and making records because they are cute and have a mega corporation throwing money at them. Or the big 7 Jkay looked like a fool in front of Usher and he too had Scooter Brown and Hybe throwing money at him to make him the next MJ during his debut but he didn't touch a single song on his album and made the same basic pop music 1D and Justin Bieber get hate for. How is Seven different from JB or JT's pop songs? Harry Styles makes better music than Jkay and he also came from a boy group
About diversity? he ain't doing this to promote black artists or something noble like that. Kany the choreographer of this song is a Shawol and his fan so she got him connected with all these international dancers. Ashley Everett apparently follows him on Instagram now and posted a selfie with him, Kany, Kasper and the dance crew and the dance crew may work for him on US stops of his upcoming world tour. So, this is just promotion for him and his company.
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I have skimmed through all of your posts and agree with most of your points except maybe the one about idols being mistreated. I will still chose to blame the companies because a lot of these idols are scouted when they are very young and probably have arrested development syndrome.
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Understood, I just always felt some type of way at the babying. I can't speak too much on bts, as a unit they are probably the strongest group but individually they are weak. Even though I always preferred Kai's music and style but, I don't pull any punches or typically defend him cause he is an sm product. He is.
Lmao, to explain myself better, the reason why I never mentioned him specifically when speaking about the cultural appropriation(despite him using black culture in his work a lot) is because his natural facial features pre-plastic surgery look very indigenous looking. Its the same reason why I don't fault Lisa for doing a blaccent and leaning into black/latino culture more, because she looks like a multiracial person anyway. It doesn't make it right but I'm a bit more forgiving because I'm aware of the mis-understandings of history in Asia. There are small populations of people within southeast asia that genetically and phenotypically have a lot in common genetically with austrailoid and black subgroups of people. So honestly if they had curly hair you wouldn't be able to tell their appearance apart from the average afro-latino person or any other mulatto. Most asians genetically are the product of this but some don't look like it as much or at all. Many may have more of a russian background. Hence all the colorism and featurism.
It may not be fair, but someone of the yayoi phenotype in asia appropriating black culture takes on a very different vibe than someone who probably has more pre-yayoi features and dna running through their veins. It's the reason why I don't speak on it at all because honestly, it's a very nuanced debate to have. I wonder how many people have actually seen Kai predebut without makeup and plastic surgery? He literally looked like a black person, and that's not even including skintone. Korean fans had rumors he was african american, and many genuinely thought he was a mixed person. So do many ethnic dark skinned thai people and I'm not exaggerating, you just won't see them much in the media. Every country has a mixed population to a certain degree. Taemin was a tanner kid but his features are normal for a far east asian person, his looks were very much so the standard in Korea 100 percent. So him occasionally pretending to be micheal jackson and constantly expressing his distain for darker skin and then using black females to hype himself up. There's a lot of nuance in my opinions on the topic.
I do think Taemin's marketing was better than his and also Kai didn't do himself any favors in terms of taking care of himself. So I don't say nothing in his defense cause it's lowkey deserved everything you're saying. I actually bought more shinee albums than exo and Kai album, just to make that clear. So I feel like I'm a pretty balanced person to say these things. Lmao all these groups could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't care, so I have no dog in the fight at all.
Taemin had no talent at all when he auditioned. In singing and barely dancing, singing lessons and consistent practice has helped him a lot, I still don't think it's all to great but there's an audience for it. In an industry of plants he is the kpop standard of a plant. Kai is actually a naturally talented person, but puts forth little to no effort at times and fell into the industry hard, he's in super deep. An s.m casting coach even said he was 'a natural'. This means he basically was allowed to debut off merit alone, which is incredibly rare.
S.m doesn't allow artists to sing below their accepted standards, the reason why Kai doesn't sing live is because his voice dropped around his early 20s and he literally cannot sustain above a certain pitch live he even has to pitch his voice up to talk which strains it even more. His voice is too low to sing at s.m standards which is more like a female range. This is why the more feminine males in s.m are the 'best singers'. But none have a very wide range. It's not a biased thing to say that Kai is a very good singer but his voice doesn't fit S.m or kpop standards. Which personally I don't like at all, but it's what the korean gen public like...they want something attainable and kind of boring.
A very jb/mj type case, good heart but he's still very deep in everything. That being said any criticism he has he earned. I just feel like Taemin protects himself from any criticism by embracing the innocent act, especially by using his religion when pressed too hard about anything. It's a clear defense mechanism.
but yes I do think we agree on most points, it's just the little wittle details in between.