BTS discussion thread

[Bae Yeon Hee]

so how do you think BP can help the elites?

Influence. Sole reason the elites created celebrities. The more influence they have the better. BP will promote agenda and propaganda. RM showed interest in Nietzsche, boom Army's now are too. Used Demian as inspiration for BS&T. Book flew off shelves smashing records. Demian is gnosticism. Similar to luciferianism. Elites will promote all religions except Christianity. Even Catholicism. Fans want to imitate their idols. Style, dance, everything.

 

[ShiningCarat14]

BTS “ON” MV ANALYSIS
PART 1
Disclaimer: Everything discussed
In this analysis is speculation done by research and I do not claim anything to be 100% facts

1) Symbolism of the dove

At the start of the mv, Jin is holding onto a dove white dove with an arrow through it. The arrow symbolises power in freemasonry Aswell as a sense of direction and penetration whilst whiteness symbolises purity and innocence. In the illuminati despite having connotations to purity a dove is actually a symbol of sacrifice and so the arrow could be the handler or the one in power whilst the dove the victim of a circumstance.

@OvercomeItAll stated in her post there seems to be a correlation between Kookie and the dove. In the mv jk wears shackles with thorns as if he’s trapped and is running from danger. He seems to be running through a desert symbolising lack of nutrition and lack of life. At the same time Jin is in a room filled with cages Symbolising being trapped too. The dove is trapped just like jk.


2) Symbolism of nature (Woods, dessert branches)
In occultism nature is a huge part of “searching for the truth” and when this is introduced a new degree of freemasonry occurs. Climbing the mountain can be a symbolism of BTS reaching the 23rd degree or reaching a new degree after this comeback
The desert area where J-Hope seems to be in actually reminds me of the Acacia tree in Thailand and it loooks quit

In masonry this tree is symbolising a grave (ironic as Jungkook is laying in this desert with the black crow eating him... symbolising death and the decomposition of body...spiritually symbolising the consumption of energy and demonic power being inserted into his body) This also links to him being a possible sacrifice.

The acacia tree to occultists also symbolises immortality and if you look at the lyrics of the song “bring the pain” “blood and flesh” etc they are all talking about how they are immortal to fear and pain. They are acting like they are immortal in those lines.
3) Religious reference Noah’s ark

we see a scene With RM which had an uncanny resemblance to Noah’s ark. In occultism ark symbolises secrets and hidden truths. The story of Noah has a moral of being chosen and for the good to be saved. Since the occult like to use inverse messages BTS use of this scene could be that they are chosen for evil and contradict the story from good to evil similar black and white birds symbolising a juxtaposition of Jungkook.
There are a lot of biblical references in this mv which seem to draw one to believe that BTS is acting against religion

4) The scene With Yoongi, looks like an initiation ritual when a new member is introduced to the occult. Later in the mv we see all the members wearing red cloaks which is common uniform in these ceremonies. The light is the summoning of Lucifer. I don’t know why Sug@ would be in this scene but I feel like this scene represents jk joining the cult. Later when they they wear the red cloaks it is jk who arrives in the middle symbolising he is now joining them This mv seems to be centred around him
Look at the similarities between occult practice and the mv

the same red cloak was worn by the members

 

[Cookie]

BTS “ON” MV ANALYSIS
PART 1
Disclaimer: Everything discussed
In this analysis is speculation done by research and I do not claim anything to be 100% facts

1) Symbolism of the dove

At the start of the mv, Jin is holding onto a dove white dove with an arrow through it. The arrow symbolises power in freemasonry Aswell as a sense of direction and penetration whilst whiteness symbolises purity and innocence. In the illuminati despite having connotations to purity a dove is actually a symbol of sacrifice and so the arrow could be the handler or the one in power whilst the dove the victim of a circumstance.

@OvercomeItAll stated in her post there seems to be a correlation between Kookie and the dove. In the mv jk wears shackles with thorns as if he’s trapped and is running from danger. He seems to be running through a desert symbolising lack of nutrition and lack of life. At the same time Jin is in a room filled with cages Symbolising being trapped too. The dove is trapped just like jk.
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2) Symbolism of nature (Woods, dessert branches)
In occultism nature is a huge part of “searching for the truth” and when this is introduced a new degree of freemasonry occurs. Climbing the mountain can be a symbolism of BTS reaching the 23rd degree or reaching a new degree after this comeback
The desert area where J-Hope seems to be in actually reminds me of the Acacia tree in Thailand and it loooks quit
View attachment 39339
In masonry this tree is symbolising a grave (ironic as Jungkook is laying in this desert with the black crow eating him... symbolising death and the decomposition of body...spiritually symbolising the consumption of energy and demonic power being inserted into his body) This also links to him being a possible sacrifice.
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The acacia tree to occultists also symbolises immortality and if you look at the lyrics of the song “bring the pain” “blood and flesh” etc they are all talking about how they are immortal to fear and pain. They are acting like they are immortal in those lines.
3) Religious reference Noah’s ark

we see a scene With RM which had an uncanny resemblance to Noah’s ark. In occultism ark symbolises secrets and hidden truths. The story of Noah has a moral of being chosen and for the good to be saved. Since the occult like to use inverse messages BTS use of this scene could be that they are chosen for evil and contradict the story from good to evil similar black and white birds symbolising a juxtaposition of Jungkook.
There are a lot of biblical references in this mv which seem to draw one to believe that BTS is acting against religion

4) The scene With Yoongi, looks like an initiation ritual when a new member is introduced to the occult. Later in the mv we see all the members wearing red cloaks which is common uniform in these ceremonies. The light is the summoning of Lucifer. I don’t know why Sug@ would be in this scene but I feel like this scene represents jk joining the cult. This mv seems to be centred around him
Look at the similarities between occult practice and the mv
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the same red cloak was worn by the membersView attachment 39344

This analysis is so good. I wasn't ready for it to end. Thank you for sharing

 

[ShiningCarat14]

This analysis is so good. I wasn't ready for it to end. Thank you for sharing

This is just part one. I need to analyse so much more like Vs part and the burning church... seriously this mv is literally a ritual it’s so freaky
I’m glad you found it good !!!

 

[ShiningCarat14]

so they already reach in 23rd degree ?
wow
I heard that, at 33rd degree, they tell the real name of "the great architect of the universe".

What else do you know about degrees in free m*sons? do you know any other symbolism or ritual for a specific degree?

I think so Yh. That’s why they can be seen climbing a mountain. Apparently that means you’ve reached the 23rd degree

I don’t know much about degrees sorry but maybe I’ll do some research and write a post. I’m sure there are some posts on this thread that explain them well though

 

[OvercomeItAll]

BTS “ON” MV ANALYSIS
PART 1
Disclaimer: Everything discussed
In this analysis is speculation done by research and I do not claim anything to be 100% facts

1) Symbolism of the dove

At the start of the mv, Jin is holding onto a dove white dove with an arrow through it. The arrow symbolises power in freemasonry Aswell as a sense of direction and penetration whilst whiteness symbolises purity and innocence. In the illuminati despite having connotations to purity a dove is actually a symbol of sacrifice and so the arrow could be the handler or the one in power whilst the dove the victim of a circumstance.

@OvercomeItAll stated in her post there seems to be a correlation between Kookie and the dove. In the mv jk wears shackles with thorns as if he’s trapped and is running from danger. He seems to be running through a desert symbolising lack of nutrition and lack of life. At the same time Jin is in a room filled with cages Symbolising being trapped too. The dove is trapped just like jk.
View attachment 39341

2) Symbolism of nature (Woods, dessert branches)
In occultism nature is a huge part of “searching for the truth” and when this is introduced a new degree of freemasonry occurs. Climbing the mountain can be a symbolism of BTS reaching the 23rd degree or reaching a new degree after this comeback
The desert area where J-Hope seems to be in actually reminds me of the Acacia tree in Thailand and it loooks quit
View attachment 39339
In masonry this tree is symbolising a grave (ironic as Jungkook is laying in this desert with the black crow eating him... symbolising death and the decomposition of body...spiritually symbolising the consumption of energy and demonic power being inserted into his body) This also links to him being a possible sacrifice.
View attachment 39340
The acacia tree to occultists also symbolises immortality and if you look at the lyrics of the song “bring the pain” “blood and flesh” etc they are all talking about how they are immortal to fear and pain. They are acting like they are immortal in those lines.
3) Religious reference Noah’s ark

we see a scene With RM which had an uncanny resemblance to Noah’s ark. In occultism ark symbolises secrets and hidden truths. The story of Noah has a moral of being chosen and for the good to be saved. Since the occult like to use inverse messages BTS use of this scene could be that they are chosen for evil and contradict the story from good to evil similar black and white birds symbolising a juxtaposition of Jungkook.
There are a lot of biblical references in this mv which seem to draw one to believe that BTS is acting against religion

4) The scene With Yoongi, looks like an initiation ritual when a new member is introduced to the occult. Later in the mv we see all the members wearing red cloaks which is common uniform in these ceremonies. The light is the summoning of Lucifer. I don’t know why Sug@ would be in this scene but I feel like this scene represents jk joining the cult. Later when they they wear the red cloaks it is jk who arrives in the middle symbolising he is now joining them This mv seems to be centred around him
Look at the similarities between occult practice and the mv
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the same red cloak was worn by the membersView attachment 39344

For a long time, signs in their mvs and album photos hinted at Jiñ being the sacrifice of the group (I still feel like it could be him). But then ON happened and all arrows pointed to jk, it's really strange.

Interesting! I didn't know nature meant that. It def. looks like jk is anxious and searching for something throughout the mv (the truth). Yoonģi's scene still confuses me if I'm honest, esp how he's the only one wearing white. Someone in this thread also mentioned the symbol of the walls around the boys (how it's similar to the movie The Maze Runner) and what it meant. Man, every single scene in this mv is symbolic. They really left no room for just regular shots in between or even props in the background you could dismiss -_-

 

[ShiningCarat14]

Okay, so I finally watched the mv (with a lot of caution because the last time I fully watched a bt§ mv (ON) to analyse it here, it messed me up for days. I hate ON)

Anyway, so somebody already noticed the triangle on the floor where yoonggi is standing amongst the flames. There is a clear circle in that triangle :/

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Blonde yoonggi likes to murder a lot of men (I discuss that in a bit). In this scene, standing bound in the centre with that symbol, it looks like black haired yoonggi is being prepared to be a sacrifice/killed too. (Which he doesnt end up being because he kills blonde yoonggi. Confusing.)

Speaking of sacrifices, this scene

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Emperor(?) Yoonggi watches them behead a man. The severed head in a sack is then placed in a wooden box by a man dressed in a black cloak (I'll talk about him in my next post)

Yoonggi then admires this box with the fresh head. (There are multiple boxes there already)

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To make things worse, some of the heads in sacks never make it into a box. They're hung up like lanterns.

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This made me realise that blood/symbolism of sacrifice always surrounds yoonggi.

In this single (Shadow?), he's surrounded in bloodish wax staining walls and doors.

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Someone here later found out what artist/sculptor this was inspired from, and how it could symbolise the bands bloodshed. (The second pic of the sculptor's work
looks a lot like a coffin)


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In ON, we had this scene. A lot of red.

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I'm pretty sure this is the entire band's bloodshed, but why is it yoonggi that's starring in these scenes most?

I love your analysis. I’d love to work with you next time an mv comes out. You’re really good at picking details!!!!!

 

[ShiningCarat14]

Guys I’ve been reading old posts and a lot of you guys say you can’t forget them. There’s actually a post I read about a psychologist talking about the impact of occult symbolism on our minds. We have 3 strata of minds and the collective unconscious strata allows us all to feel the same on a universal level. So when we see symbols we subconsciously understand a meaning of them and has a magical effect. That’s why even if you watch a BTS vid you feel addicted to watching more

 

[Cookie]

Guys I’ve been reading old posts and a lot of you guys say you can’t forget them. There’s actually a post I read about a psychologist talking about the impact of occult symbolism on our minds. We have 3 strata of minds and the collective unconscious strata allows us all to feel the same on a universal level. So when we see symbols we subconsciously understand a meaning of them and has a magical effect. That’s why even if you watch a BTS vid you feel addicted to watching more

This is so scary. Like a form of hypnosis. Today is my first day of my BTS cleanse and it's a little difficult, I'm not going to lie.

 

[OvercomeItAll]

I love your analysis. I’d love to work with you next time an mv comes out. You’re really good at picking details!!!!!

Haha thank you! I'd be down

 

[ShiningCarat14]

This is so scary. Like a form of hypnosis. Today is my first day of my BTS cleanse and it's a little difficult, I'm not going to lie.

I know good luck on not listening it’s a type of hypnosis. Like I was a teen army so I think I was a bigger fangirl that most of you. It took me a whole year to stop liking Tae and sometimes still I’ll get an urge to watch something of his and I have to stop myself. It’s crazy how addicting they are I’ve never had this before

 

[Door]

I agree but people can get deceived with the "God loves everyone" "do not judge" "only God knows" narrative. God doesn't just have a "soft spot" for everyone, He gets grieved and hurt with the evilness, idolatry, etc happiness in this world and the way people reject Him. Again they are far from innocent, and they aren't being used for good. Celebrities/idols arent just humans battling with problems, theyve been involved in atrocious rituals, demonic possession, and all kinds of programming and abuse, sacrificing others or being sacrificed themselves. Even their comeback right now in stay gold they are promoting this new age/kaballah agenda of false healing and "hope" and being "illuminated", they are seen as gods more and more every day, and becoming gods is the ultimate goal in the illuminati. They are deceived with the lust of more fame and fortune/money and we of course dont know if they are aware of what else they have to become ultimate Legends. in that sense, only God knows whats in their heart and whats happening behind close doors. and i myself am always praying and hoping that bts or at least the younger ones first, to open themselves up to their sins and regret what they are doing, they have full talent and potential which would be so beautiful if only they were being used for God.

Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't consider that fact. My thoughts are so clear in my head, but now I see how what I said might be confused with the "God is only loving" narrative. The Bible says God hates the wicked, and that it's fine to judge someone's actions, but not their motives. Jesus said to trade your cloak for a sword, and according to Matthew 10:34 "“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword", I think it's evident that Christianity isn't just about love. But I think it's important to remember Matthew 7:3-5 "Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?".
I still stand behind my words that judging someone when you're angry/upset/uncomfortable isn't wise. Be it thread members judging BTS, or judging other thread members. Because when you're emotional lines get blurred. Is it about them or about you?

I can't say much about the rituals, demonic possession, programming, sacrifices and etc. because there isn't much hard evidence for that. I'm not saying it can't all be true, especially judging by how satanic kpop mv's look, all the deaths in the kpop industry, how creepy and out of it kpop celebrities act, the fact that the industry is encouraging parasocial relationships, etc. Like you said, God only knows what is behind closed doors. And perhaps it doesn't really matter what is behind those doors. Again, we can't really know their motives, we can only judge them by their fruits. And it's quite obvious what their fruits are. God allows satan in this world, satan has no real power. All he can do is influence, deceive, trick like a little troll that scurries under the bridge. I hope I'm explaining well what I'm trying to say.

 

[Shuna]

Yesterday, Youtube proposed to me the video, for the flowers, I believe that we had already spoken about it in the forum before, but confirms the display, of the date, when he puts on his striped garment (symbol of sacrifice) and the cap. Note that the video, underline, that it will be a comeback:

As a reminder, Jin goes to look for the flowers, for the girl, but the girl gets killed by the car, a car driven by Jin. The girl is the partner of RAP Monster (Satan) in 'Do You'. It is she who tempts everyone: See the clip extract, for the rest of the temptations:

LE PERSONNAGE DE RAP MONSTER: PARTIE 1: DO YOU ET WINGS: PARTIE 1: Fr/Eng:

THE CHARACTER OF RAP MONSTER: PART 1: DO YOU AND WINGS: PART 1: Français en blanc, English in red RAP Monster a un personnage très spéciale. Il est un djinn . Tout au long de l'histoire il...

mysteriesofworld.eklablog.com

List of other chapters:
Prologue : http://mysteriesofworld.eklablog.com/explications-de-l-histoire-globale-de-bts-fr-eng-a150589376
_ (see above)
Part. 2: http://mysteriesofworld.eklablog.com/le-personnage-de-rap-monster-partie-2-wings-partie-2-fr-eng-a155104592
Part. 3: http://mysteriesofworld.eklablog.com/le-personnage-de-rap-monster-partie-3wings-partie-3-fr-eng-a156466066
Part. 4: http://mysteriesofworld.eklablog.com/le-personnage-de-rap-monster-partie-4-wings-partie-4-fake-love-fr-eng-a157424280

In Spring Day, they make the list of the girl, book that Jin, lug around everywhere. Outside like Jonghyun, I bet that the BTS, make a concert in tribute to the sacrifice. In fact, the shoes go to the end of the course. One of the first containers is that of the representation of On.

 

[Cookie]

Also Chri$$y te!g@n is in the talk that she maybe is with her husband j0hn l£g£nd p***phile. So i checked her twitter but she is on private mode than i went on her instagram and scroll her photos....guys i found a photo with the caption: BTS ( I like Jin and V) her photo was half naked and she hold her breast with her hands. And know I have this feeling that she book the boys for one night or even more worse. I hope not but it seems like this. Like why now? And why with this picture with this kind of caption. I feel so disgusting! I cant understand why this celebritys do all this for money and fame. Like you dont have pride and honor? Also i celebrate that some celebritys get expose for what they have do. How disgusting this monsters are. I hope for all they have do to this pure children they get the 100000000 payback. This Monsters!

http://instagr.am/p/CCWWZZ1pOgE/

That is such a random caption for a semi nude photo

 

[Cookie]

Really Random also why this kind of picture. I hope the booking have fail! if it was a booking if not i dont like her anyways...
I hate that many western celebrity like them i have this vibe that they want to do evil shit with them. Idk why but i dont like bts in america tbh.

Yes and in the comments nobody is questioning anything. BTS are definitely only getting bigger and bigger. I only became a fan last year but their older music was much better before they blew up in the west.

 

[Shuna]

Speaking of Jungkook ... On the other hand, the cross (death) is on white (life, or light) and the circle (life) is on black (gray in animation (gray = danger or something like that...)):

 

[Cookie]

You can say they had this innocent light. They look so broken and diffrent to their younger selves.
This edit is so sad. Jk at the end....

There's a difference between getting older and being broken inside. I was shocked when I saw 2019 BTS performances for the first time. Becoming a fan late, I had started with their older content and when I finally dug into the newer stuff, I didn't recognize them. Especially RM

 

[ShiningCarat14]

Is he your bias? Or do you think about him very often?
Me too but in my dreams they are more sad than happy. I also got headache after the dream or feel weird.
Also you are muslim right?
Idk if in Christianity also they have this but in islam some dreams have a meaning it even can predict future things or can tell you about yourselves. Who like you, hate you or even how other peoples are if they are ill, happys or sad. It calls Ruya.

I’ve been feeling sorry for him... Because of what I read on the thread. I don’t really watch BTS anymore and Yh he was my bias

Yh I’m Muslim! Not all dreams are premonitions. They fall into 3 categories so it depends. A dream is either from the devil, God or your own mind

 

[taepeach]

Really Random also why this kind of picture. I hope the booking have fail! if it was a booking if not i dont like her anyways...
I hate that many western celebrity like them i have this vibe that they want to do evil shit with them. Idk why but i dont like bts in america tbh.

i dont even think these celebs really like bts at all... as if bts is gonna look at them and be like "wow youre hot lets collab and chat!" lol , did she think being half naked is the best way for people or even bts themselves to find out she likes them? she doesnt even have an army bomb or a bt21 plushie of them lol, (and also idk if this means anything but jin and tae are both born in december and aren't they moonchilds? someone pls explain what a moonchild is but yeah, its interesting she said specifically those two)

 

[Cookie]

i dont even think these celebs really like bts at all... as if bts is gonna look at them and be like "wow youre hot lets collab and chat!" lol , did she think being half naked is the best way for people or even bts themselves to find out she likes them? she doesnt even have an army bomb or a bt21 plushie of them lol, (and also idk if this means anything but jin and tae are both born in december and aren't they moonchilds? someone pls explain what a moonchild is but yeah, its interesting she said specifically those two)

Yes she was oddly specific.. it's an odd way to express being a fan ... Like really odd. Especially for a celebrity