Die Antwoord= Completely demonic

Canuckster

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I think you have to go back to the original work watkin tudor jones did in the early years before Die Antwoord, his other bands the original evergreen, The constructus corporation, Max Normal, Max Normal.tv , and some self titled albums under watkin tudor jones, which i think is some of the best stuff hes done to date. These two are not some street thugs out of south africa but rather the product of middle class white south african families who attended some art college a number of years ago.WTJ's current persona is even stolen from an image online that i used to have and subsequently lost. so it is hardly original as much of what he does is borrowing content from other sources and mish mashing it together, which is pretty much the essence of hip hop.

His original music is very anti mainstream and very intelligent. I could explain it but you kind of have to listen to it for yourself if you want to go back that far. As far as I see it, I'm not a fan of their newest stuff. it seems forced and contrived. I think there's a very real possibility that WTJ understands whats needed to be successful in this industry and make money so he panders to the deep pockets of the powers that be to ensure he gets airtime and exposure. from what Ive heard and read and heard him say in interviews and the content of his earlier muisic, I believe the man to be more buddhist and a zen practitioner than anything else. but I obviously don't know enough about him to be sure,

just my 2 cents.
 

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I still say they do that for shock value... they try to be edgy because of "zef" culture.
I’ve always been on the fence about that, because of how they started out.. but now their image is so saturated with satanism *shrug*
 

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I think people forget the basics VC has put forth. Groups, acts or whatever you term them are eventually courted by the music elite once they've established their art/music/etc. Will they sell out is the question and it seems as if they all do or at least the ones who make it in the biz. DA is nothing in their home country of South Africa and most there have never heard of them, yet they're pushed on a more national front and adopt the Satanic antics along the way. People are willing to sell it all for fame and do what is asked to hit the next level. One thing is certain, I have so little respect for many in the music and entertainment business these days knowing they are not willing to take a stand and keep their offerings organic. They take the money and blend in and the examples are many ...
 
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I’ve always been on the fence about that, because of how they started out.. but now their image is so saturated with satanism *shrug*
I don't think we can full know their intentions or situation... but they definitely use symbolism. There is still a clear use of shock value as a part of their image though. It could be a mix of shock value and actual service to the elite.
 

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As I said it isnt possible to get a record out unless you're an initiated witch. Maybe if you own your own record company but I doubt the elite would allow such competition.

You people are being gullible.
 

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when they signed with interscope, they shortly after terminated their contract and subsequently released tracks heavily critical of the label. im not sure what label they are under now if any, but they are definitely forging their own path, albeit one that is lined with familiar imagery. I personally think Watkin is smart enough to understand whats required to make money in the industry, if he truly believes it is another matter.

if you listen to his earlier music you'll understand what i mean.
 

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some lyrics from a song called sun on my face

This isn't happening...
Fuck the plot, here, let me help you lose it
Here's the part where they merged again (the words begin) to Distort
And I start acting stupid
I'm trapped inside this silly human body and I'm beginning to feel claustrophobic
So change the channel before I poke in your fragile little mind and start to probe
With a specialized mind science is the study of human behavior in relation to the mind
Master compresses backdoor transference interface with the rhyme
I'm coming at you like the pavement through this warped landscape Like a ghost rocking a carcass
Behold my light but do not touch I was tumbling into my darkness
Stay streamlined
Smoke spit snuff it
While your pants fall off your arses
Me and my trusty hell-bent Outlast this engineering catharsis
Anonymous anarchist Post mathematical ones sway to the rhythm
I skywalk impossibly Tip toe over heads
While the drums wade through the (syrup)
(sir) Excuse me
Never a moment to myself
(vomo is in a waat)??
I don't feel like speaking to anyone, I'm busy designing a new world

I am a brave man With a strange game plan

Sun on my face I am empty No more sorrow spare me memories I am the man From tomorrow
Sun on my face I am empty No more sorrow Spare me memories I am the man From tomorrow

The boom bang bringer I'm slinging my slang to the beat
My nose starts to bleed everytime I use mind control on human beings
Voodoo!
Freaky-deaky action on some blood nosed pussy boy Black-attack-black shit
 

Canuckster

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World Champion

I do it for my health
Nobody feels me quite as much as I feel myself
Totally Rad: The baddest public speaker
Suck funk from the aether, to pump through your speaker
Play, play fans you chose the wrong pot to piss in
You work for us, man. Here's your job description:
Love us more than anything in your life
We don't play games, drop names, pull strings or bite
Ask nothing of us save that which is practically beneficent
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Be three steps ahead of everyone, I promise you'll make it home
Do not sleep too much
Be firm yet supple, use me as a weapon, Watkin flirts with trouble
Put me on the front-line. I cannot be destroyed
You know the deal, anti-personnel spells get deployed
Make our music as available as possible
The shit is d.i.y. So fuck with it if you feel you got the skill
Do not try to be clever, rather direct and practical
Fuck fancy construct diagrammatical
The free-radical, lone hitman for hire
Power-hungry liars fan the fire
Treat people who do not understand what we do with the least amount of energy as possible
Live it, don't give in, be original, even when you aren't
Make your mom proud


World.. Champion..

Take us all over the world, we like to travel
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Then go out and get it without requiring anything of anyone
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Don't go to them, let them come to you
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When my mom send me into this world she sent a blessing
This job description could be translated as: how to manage an explosion
Stay invisible till you invincible then set your plan in motion
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Do not endanger the unit by being anything less than perfect

World.. champion..

Channels are open, do not be afraid of this but know that
Stepping through these channels is dangerous
Corporate giants can't fuck with the link between our (h)art and our clients
So come on, freak us out, be defiant, non-compliant
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And know that I will defend this shit with my life
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I'm here to bring the pain, let us avoid stagnation at all costs
Step lively, do what you say, kick information that'll last
And I do not perform for people, I make music that I love
And it's wonderful to watch people in love
Know that i am vitally important
Because i love life, one real life disperser
Quicken, suprise yourself, strong inside
Soft outside no vice versa
Totally Rad, so many options, stormy weather
B double O to the M
 

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i knew that ugly fashion with pants hanging of their ass couldnt come from a human!
 

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I find it offensive how people will lump homosexuality in with demonic possession. I’m a gay man but woke to certain agendas being pushed by the elite and the industry. I feel pushing a homosexual agenda forcing straight artists to perform homosexual acts is cheap and equally as offensive!
 

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I think all of these images there were posted are incredibly disgusting and I do not comprehend why anyone would want to participate in this and be a fan of theirs. The upside down cross especially confounds me.



By putting this on you'll accomplish offending and/or grieving a billion-counting number of Christians... and for what? It seems so very futile to me. This cross clearly pays homage to Satan of the Bible, but why would anyone want to worship Satan, a purely negative entity? If you want to rebel do you do this by using a symbol that makes a mockery of a god you claim to believe you don't believe in? What is gained for these people personally by mocking the Christians? How does offending others make you feel better - how is this an expression of freedom? Does. Not. Compute. It's just sad, foolish and sad.

This is going on, by the way:

 

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Was that girl their daughter? She favors Yolandi, with a mix of Christina Ricci and Ninja's eyse.
 

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Well yeah because if most people haven’t noticed is they are not homosexual friendly and in fact, want nothing to do with it. So no butt plugging? No contract. Homosexuality I’m sure is one of the “musts” on said contract, especially now. They don’t flow that way even though they promote demonic possession, witchcraft and the dark arts. Of course the spirit of the AC will try to minimize it and play it down, so more people can become desensitized to evil and eventually accept that too. The problem with being tolerant to everything, means exactly that. Once you spot the minimizers, just roll your eyes and move on with your day! :rolleyes:
In the end, God will sort them all out and settle the score once and for all....

I wouldn’t worry about it too much;)
@Aiylishia, one can only imagine what terms must have been involved in a contract that produced the below,

 

TrymVonTryll

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I think all of these images there were posted are incredibly disgusting and I do not comprehend why anyone would want to participate in this and be a fan of theirs. The upside down cross especially confounds me.



By putting this on you'll accomplish offending and/or grieving a billion-counting number of Christians... and for what? It seems so very futile to me. This cross clearly pays homage to Satan of the Bible, but why would anyone want to worship Satan, a purely negative entity? If you want to rebel do you do this by using a symbol that makes a mockery of a god you claim to believe you don't believe in? What is gained for these people personally by mocking the Christians? How does offending others make you feel better - how is this an expression of freedom? Does. Not. Compute. It's just sad, foolish and sad.

This is going on, by the way:

I have never been a fan of Christianity. Teachers at school tried to indoctrinate me as a child and the whole concept of -"believe in God and you will get a reward at the end" never made sense to me. I considered christians narrowminded, they deemed everything unpleasant "satanic"...
Anyways, people can believe what they want, I believe in a God and possibly all religions point to this God, but in my eyes the religions have been corrupted.
You ask why they use the imagery of Satan, it is easy. Satan is strife, raw emotion, the rebel who dare speak up against the omnipotent, despite the consequenses. Satan can represent freedom.
The Christians converted my ancestors with the sword...it made me hate everything Christian for a while, and I myself enjoyed satanic imagery.
I am older and a bit more wise now, and do not waste energy on hate. But understand that the religions are easy to hate because they demand (very often) you to think, behave and look a certain way, it puts shackles on people, this is why people turn to satanic symbolism.
 
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Is it just me or does anyone else get annoyed looking at her stupid haircut? It's like a very drastic bowl cut at the front lol.
 

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I think you have to go back to the original work watkin tudor jones did in the early years before Die Antwoord, his other bands the original evergreen, The constructus corporation, Max Normal, Max Normal.tv , and some self titled albums under watkin tudor jones, which i think is some of the best stuff hes done to date. These two are not some street thugs out of south africa but rather the product of middle class white south african families who attended some art college a number of years ago.WTJ's current persona is even stolen from an image online that i used to have and subsequently lost. so it is hardly original as much of what he does is borrowing content from other sources and mish mashing it together, which is pretty much the essence of hip hop.

His original music is very anti mainstream and very intelligent. I could explain it but you kind of have to listen to it for yourself if you want to go back that far. As far as I see it, I'm not a fan of their newest stuff. it seems forced and contrived. I think there's a very real possibility that WTJ understands whats needed to be successful in this industry and make money so he panders to the deep pockets of the powers that be to ensure he gets airtime and exposure. from what Ive heard and read and heard him say in interviews and the content of his earlier muisic, I believe the man to be more buddhist and a zen practitioner than anything else. but I obviously don't know enough about him to be sure,

just my 2 cents.
max normal album (songs fromn the mall) is amazing! i wish i had a copy. im a big fan of his early stuff!
 

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They physically repulse me. They came to town not too long ago and their show sold out. I think it says a lot about our society when you realize how popular they are. I think it’s sad when young people just write off their clearly demonic influence as “shock value” or “edgy”. I’m sure it’s both but that doesn’t take away the fact there’s something clearly evil influencing them and probably you too if you like this nonsense.
 
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