Entertainment x BTS x Politics x EXPOSED

first member to leave BTS (not military or health related)

  • Taehyung

  • Yoongi

  • Jin

  • Hoseok

  • Jimin

  • Namjoon

  • Jungkook


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queen82

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It doesn’t sound as if he ruined his voice in a way that’s irreparable, when I talked about him ruining his voice, I was talking in a way where everything that was so special about it is gone, including technique, the soul in the sound, the general ambience, etc.

with a good teacher within one year including test performances to avoid going into old habits while on stage, he could see some improvements.

as far as the actual state of his voice goes, it’s a clear sign of lack of practice.

  1. pitch (hitting the right notes);
  2. Overall sound as a result of the vocal chords/muscles shaping themselves through practice giving a full secure sound;
  3. His intonation sounding like yawning. He uses tension in the back of his jaw/throat as a ultimate way trying to hit the right notes. An example being Dimple. Comparing his intonation to Jungkook’s. Jungkook sounds flawless and natural, Taehyung’s tone sounds like from the back of the car, very nasal (it gotten worse over the years due to lack of practice) and forced. It’s a common occurrence - forcing the tone when insecure about intonation.


Now that I know from what you posed when the interview was made, I can see why Yoongi wrote what he wrote and I second everything you mentioned.

I also share the same opinion that by leaving the band, he would have to face the reality of who he is as a rapper, at this moment through BTS he’s the God of that niche.



Yes, Beyoncé is the worst singer America ever had, the worst singer to be pushed. She and Jay Z are also involved in the worst stories of all kinds.

Both having made career by stealing from others.

This post is just a short example



https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/entertainment-x-bts-x-politics-x-exposed.7556/post-390754





Grammys 2015: Ledisi Responds to Beyonce Performing Her “Selma” Track



They got rid of every single not just singer, that wouldn’t have been enough, but especially BLACK female singers, to make her “the queen”, especially since at that time there were numerous great black singers.

Beyoncé stopped singing live when she started solo, the few occasions she sang live it wasn’t fully live and always with backtrack.

Her voice is a bad singing voice and she never made any progress. Which is why she’s doing playback.

In addition to that, there is no other female singer in the USA or England since she started solo...

Same goes for Adele.

Both sound like the typical choir singer which you put in the background and not lead part (which choir also has).

In both cases, you won’t find one bad article about the voice or lack of it. Only worshiping ones.

Aretha managed to sing live at the inauguration. Not Beyoncé...even when she got caught they waited until shit got too obvious and had to admit to the fakery. The thing with the national anthem is that you can hear every single mistake. It’s a clear song. You can also hear lack of voice (Lady Gaga 2021 Biden was embarrassingly bad)

Amongst many issues, she just screams and has no vibrato. Which is either a lucky thing of natural inheritance or a “must” otherwise don’t go on stage.

Don’t go on stage if you only scream or can’t do vibrato.



That’s the short version of it.



Billie Eilish only whispers. Hahaha. She does the same thing like Taehyung. Who also whispers a lot when singing low volume because neither of them can sing. So no matter if it’s high or low volume, for both situation you need good control and perfect pitch otherwise you screw it immediately.

Impeccable!







Playback all day long, perfectly mimicked






Not so good faked:






You are right about Tae wanting to imitate Jimin’s voice (?) hahaha. That’s also an unfortunate result of everyone’s jealousy regarding the beauty of the tone he used to have. Including his speaking voice.

Here deep and warm






Nasal and high pitched



https://youtu.be/wV5v3UOtzpI



As a manager you hold on to this special deep and warm tone. Bang destroyed that and him to push the gay high pitched screams. It looks like they all made Taehyung feel bad for not singing higher. There is no coincidence that even when he speaks now, his voice is higher. He was guilted into believing that his voice is a problem for the band when in fact it was a problem because it was shading everyone else, including Jungkook and doesn’t fit with the agenda of effeminate gays.


The orchestral version was very nice !



BTS’s producers and managers have no idea about music.

Idol’s version from Mama or whatever that was, the version with Korean/Asian instruments was much better than the original.

They talk about “racism” and they don’t even promote own culture and instruments despite the irony of that version sounding better than the Americanized one. Standard loops and computer sounds.
Beyoncè is really overrated and her stans are worster than army











































 

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I like yellow too. Didn’t know it was supposed to be a joke.



I know what kind of vibrato you are referring to, but that’s not real vibrato, it’s being used for the exact reason mentioned by you.

A vibrato is also part of the technique and when it’s bothering, then it’s not good.

There are many types of vibrato, someone who can sing (Whitney for example, as she, Tina Turner were from the last ones who knew how to sing), has a low vibrato in every note - depending of course of the situation/speed/melody.

Adele/Beyoncé they just burst out the notes our of the throat and that’s it. Whenever they try to bring in some vibrato, it sounds worse than before.

This is an example for a perfect vibrato unnoticeable and not just screaming the melody:



This is the idol version I was referring to:




I have it as an audio on my phone and I listen to it, because I like the way the instruments sound, even as a VST plugin (= virtual studio technology).

it is not something common to hear, and it’s sad when you can make so much musically with your own native instruments, that they don’t take advantage of it.


I was nice (as a musician) to read your line about Adele because most of the time people would go and say the opposite, making it difficult to explain to someone why it isn’t the case.

Speaking of emotion, the biggest case of zero-emotion is Amy Winehouse.

She was gifted with a born-sound of the voice which was amazing. Unique. There is no song, no line, not even a single word where she can transmit any emotion, in fact there is zero emotion coming from her. Not just the incapability of transmitting.

Cases like Amy Winehouse are often. When you don’t have to do much but open your mouth, that’s the sound which will come out. Just a sound.

It happens with instrumentalists or dancers as well.

Nowadays there are simply no more critics and there is an agenda of lowering the bar at its lowest so that the elite, the powerful people, can easily pick anyone to control and manipulate the masses.

No need to struggle finding someone good.


Yoongi’s lyrics are of course what draw my attention.

Then the more I’ve listened to it, the worse it got because...how many times are you going to sing/rap about what a hard life you have, in the same way..?

An artist manages to speak about sadness or happiness (basically the two themes of everyone’s life) through different means.

Not the same words, the same sentences all the time for years.

By the 3rd song I stopped believing because it also didn’t fit the profile.

Knowing how life behind poster-guys like him/BTS looks, hearing someone either bragging or complaining over “hardship”, when he isn’t the one practicing all day and all night long until you don’t even know where the day starts, when you slept last time, changed my overall impression.

In general, even their choreography, it’s just about baseless complaining. This buckle poses they always do.

I’ve said once and I am repeating it - people who work, and who even see one penny back from their work, don’t complain.

“Artists” who “struggle”, they struggle over other type of things, not the ones he started mentioning in every song.

If he’s worried that he’s going to loose everything, it must be the fake BTS success. Because if he were a real rapper, a “genius”, no one and no lack of BTS could take that away from him.

He’s just afraid over facing the reality. More then ever, now, BTS has become something not worth a penny and the downfall of their substance must be obvious for Yoongi, but like I’ve once said in a lengthy post I made about him - he’d be the last one to accept a disbanding because given how - at least according to his statement - often he wanted to quit the band, like a Stockholm Syndrom situation, for his psyche to survive, he must tell himself that this situation which ruined him, is what’s saving him.

And even more praise Bang and accept everything.

The guy who says he isn’t part of an industrial product, but a rapper, is the one wearing pink girly outfits, makes hearts for little girls and doesn’t even rap anymore within the band.

Taehyung’s voice always overshadowed the others so it must have been bothering Bang.

You can’t have someone special like he used to be, as a lead singer especially when your favorite is Jungkook, who was a different type back then. He wasn’t that good looking like today and Taehyung was also a visual attraction.

And no, it is apparently not enough to have 3/4 vocalists with high voices...you have to have ALL of them sounding like pussies. I mean actual cats.

Though Yoongi’s and Namjoon’s voices are low/deep. But they’re allowed...for obvious reasons.

Having a rapper with a high pitched voice...well no. Actually I take it back.

Next plan is to have high-pitched-voice rappers.
I forgot to mention, it wasn't in that video for some reason, but in that same interview he literally said that he wrote Yellow to "make my mates giggle". It's so funny how open he is. He wasn't trying to trick anyone and pretend like some snob "hoho, your little mind just doesnt understand the depth of my lyrics", he's just having fun.

Oh yeah, you're totally right. I completely forgot about that Whitney song. I love the beginning of it. It's amazing how without any music she can hold attention. I dont particularly like the song when she begins to sing loudly, but the beginning of it is just magical. I forgot how amazing it's possible to sing. I probably got used to all the trash on the radio. But I feel kinda stupid, because I totally forgot that she used vibrato. Or maybe I didnt notice it, idk.

I totally agree about Amy Winehouse. I really really like her voice, but her singing never touched me. I guess you're right, now that I think about it, there's a lot of "singers" with unique voices, but that's where it ends, they're just unique sounding, but there's nothing soulful about them.

I agree with what you say about Yoongi's lyrics. I got the same feeling. He used to be so good, but for the last few years it's like he's recycling the same ideas over and over. I first thought thats just him saying "I dont give a shit anymore, fans will eat up anything I write", but seeing his interviews, it seems like he's serious? It sucks that it also seems like his world has become very small, because of the fans being biased and just being a celebrity, I don't think he experiences much of life's different aspects to get inspired.
It's like how you said about Jung. They talked about Jung as if they're about to pump out some insanely thought-provoking and philosophical album, and perhaps also because of that high expectation, what they came up with was so...underwhelming. And the Love Yourself trash, I thought they were gonna discuss in their album the difficulties some people have with accepting themselves (especially since obviously Namjoon and Yoongi, at least, have experience with that), or something like that, but in the end it was just talk. The songs barely have anything to do with the topic of the album.
And Jin's solo song "Answer" (yeah right) cemented that:
"Why did I want to hide my precious self.
What made me so afraid that I hid my true self.
I'm the one I should love in this world."
Thanks, captain obvious. Is this supposed to be so inspiring and, as they like to say, empathetic? It's like saying to a depressed person, "You dont like yourself? Well you just should, dont you know?" It's handed as if a revelation, "oh my god, didnt you know we should just love and accept ourselves?" Is this a joke? Do they think their fans are stupid? I mean...I guess if the fans like this kind of stuff, then there's no need to ask, but...it's just so hard to believe.

"The guy who says he isn’t part of an industrial product, but a rapper, is the one wearing pink girly outfits, makes hearts for little girls and doesn’t even rap anymore within the band."
Ahaha, well, to be fair, back then they weren't doing so much fan-service. But I can't imagine how humiliating it must be for a serious artist. I'd feel like I was one of those circus monkeys with a cute little hat on my head, dancing for treats.

Oh wow, that Idol version was very interesting. Though also kind of reminded me how dumb that song is. Do you think they avoid using instruments like that because they want to appeal to America more?

(Sorry, I think I got a bit off topic with this reply)
 
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Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Most "philosophers" throughout history have committed unimaginable crimes and were downright evil/antichrist. For example, Karl Marx and Friedrich Nietzsche.
 

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...that it’s about something else, undisclosed interests of their managers/backers/financiers.
Labor work in China is as ancient as their history.

Or as Nietzsche said - the will to power.
But Jackson is pro- China and said that he won't accept any kind of criticism against his country
 

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Also, unrelated but rm in the video of bts finding out the lost made me laugh so loud. His face didn't sit right with me at all, it's almost like he got humbled when he found out that he lost. I bet his ego was harmed.

I noticed that RM seems to have one of the bigger egos in BTS. A long with taehyung.

He also acts like his superior anytime he speaks english in inetrviews.
the fame got to his head, it's clear
 

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HAHAha! I said it the entire time. But I’m not a public person.

I don't support any kind of dictatorship, but she is actually right with her statement. SK basically does everything the US tells them to do and is not, in any way independent because it is like america's colony in asia
 

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hahaha, ok, let me just say this: out of all people in BTS, JIN is the one where I have serious doubts that he writes anything.
What are the wonderful chances - 7 people, all of them suddenly feeling sorry for themselves, because 5 seconds ago all they did was traveling and playing around day and night, now with issues only army can understand and solve by streaming and buying whatever they/re selling..
Playing the victim is a manipulation tool. It makes the other one feeling superior, not threatened (we're all animals and we all instinctively fight for our place)
All of them suddenly writing the same type of lyrics?

As a test - everyone is invited - I am going to create a BigHit/Hybe/Bang situation, also because this is how things work in a writers circle. They get some words, themes and have to write lyrics based on that.
Beyonce had like 100 writers for a few bad songs. They got together in their Hamptons villa rented for 500k monthly, most likely got high and drunk and 100 people collaborated to some lyrics about how she s$$$ed Jay Z's ding dong in a car. Great.

Imagine a story where you're overwhelmed about life around you (which is the PERFECT scenario for every young person), had a fight with a friend, cried about something, felt like you don't belong anywhere, cold hands, rapid hear beat, the darkness outside in the winter, wishing summer would come only to feel that the warm sun and the happy people outside are bringing your misery more to life than during the dark cold winter.
People around you are pulling in all directions, wanting things from you, the money you just earned was stolen, unconscious you start scratching your hands until they bleed.

As a title - let's say "weather" , or choose your own title, but start with it first and write the rest around it.
Now, based on this scenario write some words, or sentences...it will end up like any other BTS lyrics. Consider that the ghost writers around every "artist", are trained and have been doing this for years. Also to search all data bases for things to steal - also to this there is a Beyonce story how she has an entire team of people looking all over the internet and stealing anything they find, especially from like 50 years ago. The older the better.
Like Single Ladies:



the gay guy talking in the second video should feel ashamed. He says it looks like a copy, but then, watching the whole it is more like an HOMAGE.
WT hell.

xxxxxxxxx

Yes, I believe they didn't used that version to appeal to America, not for "racist" reasons, but for practical ones - America's pop has developed into the worst pop out there. The main purpose is to create music and lyrics as simple as possible. The same loops all over the song.
When they try to create some "weird" beats, is still standard stuff, still easy to digest.
Prodigy is a God compared with any techno, dub step, beats, samples and stolen intellectual art they're using.
One of the best songs and videos of its genre


or this


Nick Cave lost his son. Nick Cave also did a lot of drugs in his life.

This song, especially after minute 3 if you don't like the general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha5VGMaG4E4


Yoongi could have saved himself. Like Taehyung and also the rest. This obsession with fame and to not care AT ALL about what you are doing...I don't think Yoongi realizes anymore how bad everything got. Like I've written in my previous post, he's hanging with all he has now to the idea that everything he's doing, everything about BTS / Bang (didn't he played an ode in his Daechwita about him..) / the company is the best, perfect, and all other rappers looser.
Oh, I didnt mean that Jin is a bad lyric writer, he didn't write that song, as far as I know it was slow rabbit, bang, and some other people. I just meant that for a song to be released as a part of a bts album where they talk about such a serious topic, the song is incredibly lacking in meaning and depth.
Before the albums were released, I thought the Love Yourself thing made sense, because they always wrote songs about struggles. That's kind of their thing. Bullet proof boy scouts, as in the shield protecting the youth, or something like that. But I also agree that it is a perfect theme for the youth, because nowadays especially, a lot of young people are feeling overwhelmed. It wouldn't be weird, IF their songs in the Love Yourself albums made sense and had some kind of meaning or understanding, and I naively thought they would. I mean, come on, it takes balls to release a song like N.O. in South Korea. I still like that song, it really hits in the heart even if you haven't struggled with that, you still feel it, you can EMPATHIZE. That's what their new songs lack.

When you put the song process like that, it sounds creepy. Like they're cashing in on the emotional struggles of the youth. I mean, I guess that would make sense why the company was interested in gathering info on the mental issues their fans have. Why else ask about something like that?
I didnt quite get the part about scratching your hands. Did you mean that the topics of songs can influence a listeners mental state? I might be misunderstanding.

Well, could you imagine how terrifying it would be to realize that your company is squeezing you like a cash cow and doesn't actually see you as a human? But like you've said before, it could be just the fear of going on your own and failing. Especially with all the silly trophies bts gets, it can create the illusion for Yoongi, for example, that he's achieved something on his own. Apparently he keeps talking about how he wants a grammy, it's just so sad at this point, how much validation do you need? Isnt this the guy who 5 years ago said that he doesnt care about charts and trophies, as long as he makes good music? It's just scary how much he's changed.

Oh yeah, you're right about "easy to digest" beats. Even when you hear new sounds in their songs, they still feel familiar. It's nothing inovative or surprising. It's like a newer version of the thing before.

You know what, sometimes mainstream "musicians" don't even hide the fact that they steal from smaller artists:
 
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The first slide is just a picture, it's about the rest of the slides.




first pic is from a video shooting and the second one from their visit to the BTS museum last year which has been hyped by their fans all over the news over how cute it was when Taehyung pooled Jungkook to sit with him in the car.
No mater how, what, when, Jimin always looks creepy.
Maybe someone finds a picture of him looking normal, including the way he stares at the camera.



No problem, it is good to always ask if something isn't clear.
I see, because it would timely fit. 2021 would be 5 years.
I doubt China would attack a refinery of their second largest oil supplier with no visible gain. They could simply say to Saudi - hey, we have our own refinery and don't need you anymore. They could say the same to the Russians, since they are the largest supplier.
Additionally, the houthi rebels have been attacking Saudi for years, backed by Iran. This isn't the first time. They've been involved in several similar attacks for years now.
I personally see no connection whatsoever of an involvement China's related to this attack. At least not based on the informations available.

Maybe you could explain why you feel that China has something to do with it, so I could answer to that.

Maybe you could explain why you feel that China has something to do with it.




one word: NOTHING

They bring in money for everyone. A politician and backers isn't ruined or out of the picture, just because he looses an election.
One example : Fox News owned by Murdoch AND his family. An entire family affair.
Apparently : "conservative".
Bullshit, when he knew that they sacked Trump and he ain't gonna win, Murdoch put his lacheys on Fox News (except Tucker Carlson) to lie about Trump, attack him and go full CNN modus operandi against him and republicans.

Same with Moon.
BTS brings in money for not just politicians covering different agendas, but especially for the wealthy people, who don't care who is in power. They own people from both sides. Soros did that everywhere.






hahaha. yes it is.
Apropos dictatorship - North Korea, China. ok. We know it, their citizen know it.
Worst thing about it? Almost all countries Europe's, through the worst plague of "european union/community" has developed in a dictatorship, the only difference to China being that we don't execute, which is actually a proof of corruption.
China executes traitors, those endagering national security, etc.
Europe doesn't punish criminals and countries aren't independent anymore, Europe it is now lead by people behind the curtain, deep state, enslaving citizens, stealing natural resources from countries like Romania, Moldova, Ukraine.
Only Hungary and Poland are somehow independent, backed by Russia.
In China or North Korea you know where you're at.
Canada, Australia, Europe....is a dictatorship where noone cares about their own citizens, it's a gulash meant to get rid of nationalism, of people protecting what belongs to them and a situation where crimes aren't punished anymore, only when you try to speak out the truth.




The part with scratching hands was to create a scenario similar to those given in those circles, creating a fake story, involving "sufferance" , blood, "pain" etc and then it's very easy to write anything when you're given key words/scenario. This was the reason why I invited people to write (for themselves, not necessarily in public) some lyrics build on the story given. To prove that if you're giving some effort, you'll be able to write lyrics similar to those of BTS without having any relation to the story or words written.
But also yes, it influence the state of mind. Especially their target - aren't all BTS and Billie Eilish fans filled with "hardship" and dealing with "mental health issues" ? Suddenly? Just because BTS mentioned?
Aren't BTS constantly using semi-suicidial words and thoughts and their fans desperately trying to get their attention by becoming depressed? Aren't BTS fans feel depressed but also "healed" through BTS's lyrics and music...?.....


What Bang did with that disgusting questionnaire and the lack of backlash should have been the biggest warning. Since their fans are minors, he should have been arrested, or fined for it.
This whole business with boybands is about manipulating young girls.
EVERYTHING about it - the lyrics, the photos, videos, it's an entire process in which people are hired who know what works the best into manipulating young teenagers, especially girls, which isn't very hard. All you need is cute boys, some struggling lyrics, some sentimental appealing to their hormones, the rest is history.

The easiest way to trap teenagers is to tell them that they are trapped, parents/school/life keeps you hostage, you can't do what you want to to and THEY have the answer. Similar to the political game - you are a victim, everything is bad, we have the answer.
It is normal for any teenager to believe this. I was raised more strict and back in my days parents and teachers used to tease the "libertarian" ideologies imported from the west.
I understand why you would like the song, why any young person would like N.O, so based on what I've wrote before, let's take the lyrics:

[Hook: RM]
A good house, a good car, will these things bring happiness?
In Seoul to the SKY, would your parents be happy?
[Verse 1: Jungkook]
Dream is gone, no time to breathe
School, house and PC room is all we have
We live the same life
And have to become number one

For us it's like a double spy between dream and reality

1) they had no idea what owning a car or house means, hence happiness. They didn't even had a driver's license. Prooving - someone else wrote the lyrics, by default they couldn't have known what they talk about, it's standard things especially to attract young people who (correctly) are being told, that if you work and learn through school you would get a good job, earn a house, have a car - HELL YEAH. Nowadays governments want to take your car and house so owning a house that noone can take away is actually quite important.

2) I did not had a PC, nor a PC room, nor a house and for many people being accepted into a good school is a dream already.
BTS didn't even went to school/highschool as you know from what I've pointed out in the past.
So no, they don't live the same life like you or others, because you probably had to go home and learn for school.

3) what dream what reality. They use some farfetched lyrics again to attract young people and worsening the already sensitive situation of teenagers always thinking everything sucks.

[Verse 2: Suga]
Who is the one who made us into study machines?
It's either number one or a failure
They trap us in borders, the adults
There’s no choice but to consent
Even if we think simply, it’s the survival of the fittest

Who do you think is the one who makes us step on even our close friends to climb up? What?

come again?? "study machines" ?
where. when.
Already talked about teenagers thinking adults are the worst, trapping them.
"No choice but to consent"
Yes, there are plenty reasons for that - brain isn't even fully developed until 20 or so !
You give full consent to a child/minor/young person -- they'll be dead within one month.
Stepping on close friends to climb up..please...such a kitsch to pretend he knows what he's talking about.. The only one who stepped on someone is Bang.

[Pre-Chorus: V, Jungkook]
Adults tell me that hardships are only momentary
To endure a little more, to do it later
[Chorus: All, Jungkook, Jimin]
Everybody say NO!
It's not going to work anymore

Don't be captured in others dreams
We roll (We roll) We roll (We roll) We roll
Everybody say NO!
It has to be now
We've done nothing yet
We roll (We roll) We roll (We roll) We roll


Everybody say NO!


They are basically telling young people to tell adults how things are...hahahahaha.
"others dreams" ? This isn't an original though and if we''re talking about "others dreams"...they are Bang's monkeys who made a at least 2,7Billion fortune out of them. Yet they can't figure it out?? After 11 years..

The same goes for the rest of the song, no need to quote the entire text. Except one verse:

"Adults say that we have it so easy"

Yes. And they still have it. They act and think like children who have no idea about the evil that's going on in the world, because they don't learn, don't read, don't collect information, yet think they know better.
Yes, as a young person you have it easier, because you have no clue about how evil the world is and what real problems are.


hahaha, Katy Perry, like Beyonce, like everyone else, use the word "inspiration" every time they STEAL.
There is NOTHING in that Katy Perry's song which fits the definition of the word "inspiration". Only intellectual theft.
Saudi Arabia is closely related to America, right (cmiiw bcs iam not update)? For what I know 1ndonesia hve an intimate relationship with Ch1na but around Dec 2020 1ndo starting more approach to Saudi (I read several articles that Saudi will lend and more invest there than before, maybe the country is in economic problems idk) but it seems that the new agreement is not final yet,

The oil refinery that burned yesterday in 1ndonesi is a state-owned company and maybe a big loss for the country and make the situation worse during a pandemic the easiest way to get up is to ask for help from Ch1na, who has been familiar and has indeed been working together to build a joint refinery in 2016, is it possible for Iran to give a signal before to Saudia? so that saudi does not help 1ndonesia if it asking for help?So that 1ndonesia still depends on Ch1na?(i don't know whether this is true or not,but 1ndonesia is a potential area for OBOR ch1na but most of the citizens re againts it),

that's just my speculation but I want to hear your opinion because in my opinion you understand better and I'm also afraid to be too distracted in thinking, I have always had a lot of suspicion about ch1na, and i hve a think that burned refinery in 1ndonesia is sabotage too bcs the ch1na-1ran refinery build in same island with the burned one

I found this, pompeo visit 1ndonesi before biden inagurated...
 
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The first slide is just a picture, it's about the rest of the slides.




first pic is from a video shooting and the second one from their visit to the BTS museum last year which has been hyped by their fans all over the news over how cute it was when Taehyung pooled Jungkook to sit with him in the car.
No mater how, what, when, Jimin always looks creepy.
Maybe someone finds a picture of him looking normal, including the way he stares at the camera.



No problem, it is good to always ask if something isn't clear.
I see, because it would timely fit. 2021 would be 5 years.
I doubt China would attack a refinery of their second largest oil supplier with no visible gain. They could simply say to Saudi - hey, we have our own refinery and don't need you anymore. They could say the same to the Russians, since they are the largest supplier.
Additionally, the houthi rebels have been attacking Saudi for years, backed by Iran. This isn't the first time. They've been involved in several similar attacks for years now.
I personally see no connection whatsoever of an involvement China's related to this attack. At least not based on the informations available.

Maybe you could explain why you feel that China has something to do with it, so I could answer to that.

Maybe you could explain why you feel that China has something to do with it.




one word: NOTHING

They bring in money for everyone. A politician and backers isn't ruined or out of the picture, just because he looses an election.
One example : Fox News owned by Murdoch AND his family. An entire family affair.
Apparently : "conservative".
Bullshit, when he knew that they sacked Trump and he ain't gonna win, Murdoch put his lacheys on Fox News (except Tucker Carlson) to lie about Trump, attack him and go full CNN modus operandi against him and republicans.

Same with Moon.
BTS brings in money for not just politicians covering different agendas, but especially for the wealthy people, who don't care who is in power. They own people from both sides. Soros did that everywhere.






hahaha. yes it is.
Apropos dictatorship - North Korea, China. ok. We know it, their citizen know it.
Worst thing about it? Almost all countries Europe's, through the worst plague of "european union/community" has developed in a dictatorship, the only difference to China being that we don't execute, which is actually a proof of corruption.
China executes traitors, those endagering national security, etc.
Europe doesn't punish criminals and countries aren't independent anymore, Europe it is now lead by people behind the curtain, deep state, enslaving citizens, stealing natural resources from countries like Romania, Moldova, Ukraine.
Only Hungary and Poland are somehow independent, backed by Russia.
In China or North Korea you know where you're at.
Canada, Australia, Europe....is a dictatorship where noone cares about their own citizens, it's a gulash meant to get rid of nationalism, of people protecting what belongs to them and a situation where crimes aren't punished anymore, only when you try to speak out the truth.




The part with scratching hands was to create a scenario similar to those given in those circles, creating a fake story, involving "sufferance" , blood, "pain" etc and then it's very easy to write anything when you're given key words/scenario. This was the reason why I invited people to write (for themselves, not necessarily in public) some lyrics build on the story given. To prove that if you're giving some effort, you'll be able to write lyrics similar to those of BTS without having any relation to the story or words written.
But also yes, it influence the state of mind. Especially their target - aren't all BTS and Billie Eilish fans filled with "hardship" and dealing with "mental health issues" ? Suddenly? Just because BTS mentioned?
Aren't BTS constantly using semi-suicidial words and thoughts and their fans desperately trying to get their attention by becoming depressed? Aren't BTS fans feel depressed but also "healed" through BTS's lyrics and music...?.....


What Bang did with that disgusting questionnaire and the lack of backlash should have been the biggest warning. Since their fans are minors, he should have been arrested, or fined for it.
This whole business with boybands is about manipulating young girls.
EVERYTHING about it - the lyrics, the photos, videos, it's an entire process in which people are hired who know what works the best into manipulating young teenagers, especially girls, which isn't very hard. All you need is cute boys, some struggling lyrics, some sentimental appealing to their hormones, the rest is history.

The easiest way to trap teenagers is to tell them that they are trapped, parents/school/life keeps you hostage, you can't do what you want to to and THEY have the answer. Similar to the political game - you are a victim, everything is bad, we have the answer.
It is normal for any teenager to believe this. I was raised more strict and back in my days parents and teachers used to tease the "libertarian" ideologies imported from the west.
I understand why you would like the song, why any young person would like N.O, so based on what I've wrote before, let's take the lyrics:

[Hook: RM]
A good house, a good car, will these things bring happiness?
In Seoul to the SKY, would your parents be happy?
[Verse 1: Jungkook]
Dream is gone, no time to breathe
School, house and PC room is all we have
We live the same life
And have to become number one

For us it's like a double spy between dream and reality

1) they had no idea what owning a car or house means, hence happiness. They didn't even had a driver's license. Prooving - someone else wrote the lyrics, by default they couldn't have known what they talk about, it's standard things especially to attract young people who (correctly) are being told, that if you work and learn through school you would get a good job, earn a house, have a car - HELL YEAH. Nowadays governments want to take your car and house so owning a house that noone can take away is actually quite important.

2) I did not had a PC, nor a PC room, nor a house and for many people being accepted into a good school is a dream already.
BTS didn't even went to school/highschool as you know from what I've pointed out in the past.
So no, they don't live the same life like you or others, because you probably had to go home and learn for school.

3) what dream what reality. They use some farfetched lyrics again to attract young people and worsening the already sensitive situation of teenagers always thinking everything sucks.

[Verse 2: Suga]
Who is the one who made us into study machines?
It's either number one or a failure
They trap us in borders, the adults
There’s no choice but to consent
Even if we think simply, it’s the survival of the fittest

Who do you think is the one who makes us step on even our close friends to climb up? What?

come again?? "study machines" ?
where. when.
Already talked about teenagers thinking adults are the worst, trapping them.
"No choice but to consent"
Yes, there are plenty reasons for that - brain isn't even fully developed until 20 or so !
You give full consent to a child/minor/young person -- they'll be dead within one month.
Stepping on close friends to climb up..please...such a kitsch to pretend he knows what he's talking about.. The only one who stepped on someone is Bang.

[Pre-Chorus: V, Jungkook]
Adults tell me that hardships are only momentary
To endure a little more, to do it later
[Chorus: All, Jungkook, Jimin]
Everybody say NO!
It's not going to work anymore

Don't be captured in others dreams
We roll (We roll) We roll (We roll) We roll
Everybody say NO!
It has to be now
We've done nothing yet
We roll (We roll) We roll (We roll) We roll


Everybody say NO!


They are basically telling young people to tell adults how things are...hahahahaha.
"others dreams" ? This isn't an original though and if we''re talking about "others dreams"...they are Bang's monkeys who made a at least 2,7Billion fortune out of them. Yet they can't figure it out?? After 11 years..

The same goes for the rest of the song, no need to quote the entire text. Except one verse:

"Adults say that we have it so easy"

Yes. And they still have it. They act and think like children who have no idea about the evil that's going on in the world, because they don't learn, don't read, don't collect information, yet think they know better.
Yes, as a young person you have it easier, because you have no clue about how evil the world is and what real problems are.


hahaha, Katy Perry, like Beyonce, like everyone else, use the word "inspiration" every time they STEAL.
There is NOTHING in that Katy Perry's song which fits the definition of the word "inspiration". Only intellectual theft.
ok thanks a lot
 

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BTS and Brit Awards
Only natural to happen..joining the line of other governmental/elite puppets like U2 who were nominated/awarded as well.



Basically their English speaking songs for which they released thousands videos with new gay hairstyle clothes and make up so that their fans get something new to watch and stream.



Oh, yes. Bringing it right to the point - Bang’s manipulation of their 8-20 year old fans hyping over how BTS members never grew up/older.
It’s wrong for both to not see the issue.

Hahahahaa, i really had to laugh at that video. Because it reminded me of all your posts regarding this issue of them never having faced real problems and play children's games instead :)
 

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Yes, Saudi and America are close business wise.
Indonesia has territorial disputes with China (South China Sea), along with other countries against China due to the same issue.

I'd like to point out though, in simple terms, that countries might have disputes over one issue, yet work together on others. America/China, Russia/Europe, Russia/America, etc.
Maybe houthi rebels were told to attack that oil refinery for the reason mentioned by you, my feeling is still that it was an independent attack, unrelated to other disputes. Maybe one that suited well China.
You have the persian gulf crisis...there are sooo many wars and interests going on in that area, which is why my eyes tend to go in this case towards houthis.
Turkey is also interested and plays a role in OBOR,
Germany in Syria.
Iran against Syria.

etc.

And houthi's constant attacks as well as claiming the bombing.
I believe that if Iran would have wanted to warn Saudi over Indonesia, they wouldn't have bombed the oil refinery, then have the houthi's take the blame, which they UNOFFICIALLY (since they deny any involvement with their movement) support. They would have simply sent some warnings. Then maybe bomb. But even here, I doubt it. It's simply not worthy. I believe Iran has bigger issues with Syria.
Oh u right u right iam fogot that houthinis unofficial, hehe thank u
 

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HAHAha

http://instagr.am/p/CNIVW3fn0zS/
BTS released their newest song - film out.
It’s their worst song.
I had difficulties to listen it until the end. When I finally thought it is the end after their high-pitched vocals especially Jimin’s ruined my years, the last 50 seconds turned to be the apogee.


Same "hardship" , pain, please save me, only you and I...blabla lyrics.

thanks for the advice, i don't think i would listen the song ahahahh
 

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HAHAha

http://instagr.am/p/CNIVW3fn0zS/
BTS released their newest song - film out.
It’s their worst song.
I had difficulties to listen it until the end. When I finally thought it is the end after their high-pitched vocals especially Jimin’s ruined my years, the last 50 seconds turned to be the apogee.


Same "hardship" , pain, please save me, only you and I...blabla lyrics.

What else would you expect on fools day then a joke? I have one word for this: boring.
No longer remember much of their songs, but I know they were able to evoke emotion or spark interest thanks to melody.
Here, none of it.
 

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The part with scratching hands was to create a scenario similar to those given in those circles, creating a fake story, involving "sufferance" , blood, "pain" etc and then it's very easy to write anything when you're given key words/scenario. This was the reason why I invited people to write (for themselves, not necessarily in public) some lyrics build on the story given. To prove that if you're giving some effort, you'll be able to write lyrics similar to those of BTS without having any relation to the story or words written.
But also yes, it influence the state of mind. Especially their target - aren't all BTS and Billie Eilish fans filled with "hardship" and dealing with "mental health issues" ? Suddenly? Just because BTS mentioned?
Aren't BTS constantly using semi-suicidial words and thoughts and their fans desperately trying to get their attention by becoming depressed? Aren't BTS fans feel depressed but also "healed" through BTS's lyrics and music...?.....


What Bang did with that disgusting questionnaire and the lack of backlash should have been the biggest warning. Since their fans are minors, he should have been arrested, or fined for it.
This whole business with boybands is about manipulating young girls.
EVERYTHING about it - the lyrics, the photos, videos, it's an entire process in which people are hired who know what works the best into manipulating young teenagers, especially girls, which isn't very hard. All you need is cute boys, some struggling lyrics, some sentimental appealing to their hormones, the rest is history.

The easiest way to trap teenagers is to tell them that they are trapped, parents/school/life keeps you hostage, you can't do what you want to to and THEY have the answer. Similar to the political game - you are a victim, everything is bad, we have the answer.
It is normal for any teenager to believe this. I was raised more strict and back in my days parents and teachers used to tease the "libertarian" ideologies imported from the west.
I understand why you would like the song, why any young person would like N.O, so based on what I've wrote before, let's take the lyrics:

[Hook: RM]
A good house, a good car, will these things bring happiness?
In Seoul to the SKY, would your parents be happy?
[Verse 1: Jungkook]
Dream is gone, no time to breathe
School, house and PC room is all we have
We live the same life
And have to become number one

For us it's like a double spy between dream and reality

1) they had no idea what owning a car or house means, hence happiness. They didn't even had a driver's license. Prooving - someone else wrote the lyrics, by default they couldn't have known what they talk about, it's standard things especially to attract young people who (correctly) are being told, that if you work and learn through school you would get a good job, earn a house, have a car - HELL YEAH. Nowadays governments want to take your car and house so owning a house that noone can take away is actually quite important.

2) I did not had a PC, nor a PC room, nor a house and for many people being accepted into a good school is a dream already.
BTS didn't even went to school/highschool as you know from what I've pointed out in the past.
So no, they don't live the same life like you or others, because you probably had to go home and learn for school.

3) what dream what reality. They use some farfetched lyrics again to attract young people and worsening the already sensitive situation of teenagers always thinking everything sucks.

[Verse 2: Suga]
Who is the one who made us into study machines?
It's either number one or a failure
They trap us in borders, the adults
There’s no choice but to consent
Even if we think simply, it’s the survival of the fittest

Who do you think is the one who makes us step on even our close friends to climb up? What?

come again?? "study machines" ?
where. when.
Already talked about teenagers thinking adults are the worst, trapping them.
"No choice but to consent"
Yes, there are plenty reasons for that - brain isn't even fully developed until 20 or so !
You give full consent to a child/minor/young person -- they'll be dead within one month.
Stepping on close friends to climb up..please...such a kitsch to pretend he knows what he's talking about.. The only one who stepped on someone is Bang.

[Pre-Chorus: V, Jungkook]
Adults tell me that hardships are only momentary
To endure a little more, to do it later
[Chorus: All, Jungkook, Jimin]
Everybody say NO!
It's not going to work anymore

Don't be captured in others dreams
We roll (We roll) We roll (We roll) We roll
Everybody say NO!
It has to be now
We've done nothing yet
We roll (We roll) We roll (We roll) We roll


Everybody say NO!


They are basically telling young people to tell adults how things are...hahahahaha.
"others dreams" ? This isn't an original though and if we''re talking about "others dreams"...they are Bang's monkeys who made a at least 2,7Billion fortune out of them. Yet they can't figure it out?? After 11 years..

The same goes for the rest of the song, no need to quote the entire text. Except one verse:

"Adults say that we have it so easy"

Yes. And they still have it. They act and think like children who have no idea about the evil that's going on in the world, because they don't learn, don't read, don't collect information, yet think they know better.
Yes, as a young person you have it easier, because you have no clue about how evil the world is and what real problems are.


hahaha, Katy Perry, like Beyonce, like everyone else, use the word "inspiration" every time they STEAL.
There is NOTHING in that Katy Perry's song which fits the definition of the word "inspiration". Only intellectual theft.
I guess you're right. I wonder why the company decides to focus so much on such dark topics. After what you've said, it really seems way too suspicious and creepy. Especially since, and I dont remember when exactly that questionaire happened, about 3 years ago at least, it's weird to make a dark story when they know a lot of BTS fans suffer from depression.
I dont know about using words, but their music videos were definitely odd, especially the ones before.
Sorry if this is off topic, but that reminded me, I'm really curious what you think. In the other thread, maybe a year ago, I did a review of the Save me Webtoon. And BTS music videos have always been around struggles and suffering, but the webtoon kind of shed light on a lot of their music videos, which used the same imagery over and over. I'm curious, why so much focus on that story? Why be focused on a story where the character, based on real people, suffer from abuse, bullying, depression, and die? I mean, before the webtoon I just thought the music videos are just little stories, until I realized that the same themes were repeating, but it seems like almost all of BTS' music videos ((Run, I need you, Most Beautiful Moment in Life: prologue, Hilghlight Reels, (and it seems like) Fake Love, Euphoria, Short Films (Begin, Lie, Stigma, etc), and possibly more)) are about one story - which is the Save Me webtoon.
Do you think the webtoon idea came inspired by the music videos, and that they were random? Or did they plan at the start the story? And decided "this is the story, and we're gonna spent a hell of a lot of music videos telling it"?

In the story Jin keeps going back in time to save the others. Namjoon works at a gas station, and almost goes to jail after a fight with a customer, which Jin prevents by going back in time. Kook falls from a building right on Jin's car, which is just horrifying imagery in the webtoon, I wont post it here. This seemed like a suicide, but Kook just slipped when he was enjoying the night view. Yoongi burns himself alive after his father says no to his music dreams, and that Yoongi will end up killing himself like his mother (And Yoongi is the only character in the story who hates Jin for saving him). Jimin is trapped in a hospital where his mother put him, and shown that Jimin sees his feet covered in dirt. So I'm guessing it's OCD? Jhope suffers from narcolepsy. And Tae has dreams where he sees Namjoon in jail, Yoongi in a fire, and in one he's even drowning and sees Jimin drowning too, who he tries to reach. Tae also has an abusive father, who he in the end of the story tries to kill, but accidentally stabs Jin.

Here are a couple of moment, some are even exact shots from the music videos:
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Ooh, that's very interesting. I interpreted the song differently.
A good house, a good car, will these things bring happiness?
In Seoul to the SKY, would your parents be happy?

I interpreted this as "if I get a good house and good car, will I really be happy?" Since for a lot of parents that is the definition of a good life for their kids. To get into one of the 3 big unis and become a government worker.
School, house and PC room is all we have
This is about parents only being focused on school. There even a line in the song: There’s no conversation topics beside studying.
For us it's like a double spy between dream and reality
I kinda agree with you on this one, it's vague. But I assumed that it is about how in South Korea it's common for parents tell their children to only focus on studying, and nothing else. And I even remember Yoongi in one interview saying that in middle school his parents threw away all of his raps, and after that Yoongi promised that he would only focus on studying, while secretly doing music. If I'm not mistake, Namjoon also talked about something similar, like hiding his lyrics from his parents and putting blank paper in his textbooks so he could pretend like he was studying.
They trap us in borders, the adults
There’s no choice but to consent

I never thought it was about no choice as in - let kids roam around free, ahaha. I thought it meant you have no choice about your future. And I agree that children are too immature to decide, but is that an excuse for parents to decide a childs life for them? If you have a good relationship with your parents - you'll listen to them, because you know they're wise. If not - no matter what they say, you will rebel, simply out of frustration. If a parent acts in a way of "you're gonna do it my way, and I don't want to hear anything about your disagreeing with me", that never leads to anything good.
Even if we think simply, it’s the survival of the fittest
Who do you think is the one who makes us step on even our close friends to climb up? What?
This is about being number one in your studies.
Don't be captured in others dreams
I thought this was about being captured in your parent's dreams. Being what will make your parents happy.
Adults say that we have it so easy
I dont think it has anything to do with knowing evils of the world, since the song is about school. In context, I thought it meant how parents say "you only have to focus on your studies right now, not on adult responsibilities like all adults do".

I do agree with you a bit that the song kind of sounds like it's creating an "us vs them" mentality, deviding kids and their parents. Like, "c'mon, kids, rebel, school sucks, lets focus on our dreams, no matter how impractical they could be". Especially since it comes from, and look at it how most BTS fans see it, it's 7 guys who have actually managed to achieve their dreams. They're not some rapper who says "I've tried for 10 years to become successful, and I feel like I should just give up on it, because I'm getting nowhere, I'm broke and unhappy. But hey, shoot for the stars! I'm sure you can achieve your dreams!"

Edit: It just hit me. I usually watch BTS music videos without sound, and I wanted to check something. Why is the music video for I Need You so violent? Like, you hear "I need you girl!" as you see Tae stabbing his father. I just cant. I mean, where exactly is the connection between what you see on screen and the lyrics?
 
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