Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

[AmazingGrace]

Private messages, friends. Please, use private messages if you wish to argue.
Thank you.

 

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Bro... you are being so inflammatory for no reason. This is a place where ADULTS can talk, and have ADULT conversations. This means showing respect and consideration even if we don’t always agree. Throwing around petty insults doesn’t serve you.

ok and can u not see me trying to end this conversation whilst miss bunny is keeping it going ? inflammatory for no reason lol i have been trying to get yall to listen or at least understand why the bias is wrong but some of yall fr don’t listen and it’s frustrating like talking to a wall.

 

[Miss Bunny]

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Private messages, friends. Please, use private messages if you wish to argue.
Thank you.

Thank you for your inputღ


I would like to add another rule if I may...

"IF YOU'RE NOT EFFICIENT ENOUGH TO HANDLE A COMPLETE DISCUSSION PUBLICLY, THEN DON'T START IT BY
TAGGING A CERTAIN MEMBER"ღ

 

[Zombiekirk]

ok and can u not see me trying to end this conversation whilst miss bunny is keeping it going ? inflammatory for no reason lol i have been trying to get yall to listen or at least understand why the bias is wrong but some of yall fr don’t listen and it’s frustrating like talking to a wall.

All she was doing was discussing points you made... or would you have preferred her to be rude and petty the way you were? You are the one that keeps this going on. Miss Bunny has been quite patient and just asked some simple questions. Take some time to cool off, then come back when you’ve calmed down.

 

[Zombiekirk]

ok and can u not see me trying to end this conversation whilst miss bunny is keeping it going ? inflammatory for no reason lol i have been trying to get yall to listen or at least understand why the bias is wrong but some of yall fr don’t listen and it’s frustrating like talking to a wall.

But people have literally agreed with you. It is YOU that isn’t actually reading anyone else’s words. You’re crying victim and it isn’t on.

 

[slowlyfading]

All she was doing was discussing points you made... or would you have preferred her to be rude and petty the way you were? You are the one that keeps this going on. Miss Bunny has been quite patient and just asked some simple questions. Take some time to cool off, then come back when you’ve calmed down.

i don’t need u continuing this. ur friend was being just as rude to me why aint u mentioning that. leave it alone stop quoting me both of u. talk to me in dms of u still got smth to say.

 

[Zombiekirk]

Aiight. I’m out.

 

[slowlyfading]

But people have literally agreed with you. It is YOU that isn’t actually reading anyone else’s words. You’re crying victim and it isn’t on.

??? where am i playing the victim. and i was having a conversation w miss bunny not everyone else in the thread and ik some ppl do agree w me ?

 

[arhur12]

Can you please address the members here in a more polite way? You can disagree without acting so adversarial.
You seem to misunderstand a lot of what is said.
I said that the performance with T@emin was inappropriate and you twisted my words saying it was sexual assault.
First of all, there are several minor fans in those concerts. Do you think that it's ok for young people under 18 who are easily influenced from their favorite artist to get the message that "oh it's totally ok to expose your hard p*nis in public and rub it to someone else"? Even if you are both adults, a concert isn't a strip club.
Second, grooming someone is a form of abuse. T@emin grew up with them, was living with them, relying on them, looked up to them. It's easy to groom a child/teenager with attention or flattery and convince them they consent to a s3xual relationship. I am not sure that happened, but there is a high chance that T@emin got exposed to p*rn or sex from the other members.

Edit: I am sorry I am not sure how to tag the right posts, in general we can all get along without saying "ew" and similar things.

Yeah they were all grooming him the whole concept of sh1nee being his baby sitters was fake they were training him to become a slave of this satanic industry

If someone thinks to be ugly,fat,chubby,or had a father who criticizes him and make feel him garbage do you think this person could be at ease on camera?
Maybe using drugs,or alcohols,or with teraphist who tell him to focus on his work and don't think to camera and judges.
He loves music,and his father told him that he will be a failure.This pushed him to rebel and to do the best to realize his dream.
Judges and critics hurt people,and a child need father's support
If this is not present this kid will grow feeling empty.A mother can't fill this void that a father left.This need a mental work to overpass this loss.Also they were poor and he became the man of the family,this was a reaction of what happened and he tried to help his family gaining money.He had this will to became an idol,to bring money at home,make his family proud,we don't know the pressure he had in his family,the mother i think projected her frustrations on him.
And he grew up with the feeling that he had to became the best to fill his inner void,help his mother.Koreans obey to family.
He tried to find a family in Sh1nee ,he wanted to be loved.And he projected his dreams into the others members.But he was weak.
Also this was not what made him happy.He loved writing.
The others enjoy the fame.And he felt different from them,so he wanted to stay at home because a part of him was disgusted by this kind of life.
About Ta3min i think he is very good to fake emotions,he seems like a prostitute and i wonder if lee freemason abused him
This happy persona he has is very fake,this is to cope the pressures.I think his family is a family of handlers,and he come from bloodline.He was chosen because of his energy,and Master numbers.I think his family is in the occult,and that he has a great intuition and open third eye because in some videos seems very gifted,he guessed things and he felt fans emotions.
Masons open the third eye with initiation
And people who loves rock metal are attracted to occult.Most pagans and witches are dark,goth.And Ta3min loves this kind of music and dressed as Marilyn manson for Halloween.He is very open to his dark side.He could have mental breakdown because if he has a great personality he could try to rebel to this program.He was raised as a special kid,and maybe trained like the others mk ultra babies,so it explains why he loves horror movies and he is not scared about things that for him are normal.


I will check the link you send me,thanks
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This thread was meant to be a platform for discussion, and you started one with me where I asked few simple questions regarding your claims. So, don't be shy to complete it and answer.

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Explain this to me and I will accept that j0nghyun was a pure person

on 0:15 he does the one eye also this is a teaser for his solo concert X-inspiration so it's not related to sh1nee j0nghyun had a lot of control over his solo work also you said he was tired of l5m but l5m is listed as an executive producer for Base his debut album

this is his solo mv he used the same symbolism as t@emin he is tied just like T@emin is in various of his mvs he wears a mask again like t@emin his makeup is adrogynous he has black and white duality going on at 2:36 you can see checkered pattern on the stairs also j0nghyun was the first 5m artist to be allowed to collaborate with people outside of his agency he was given complete freedom over his career he wrote 90% of his own songs and was producer of his albums and 5m allowed him to promote on music shows unlike Chanyeol who's self produced album was given nothing j0nghyun was also part of 5m the ballad he was not as mistreated as everyone believes also 5m paid dust to f(x) and sulli after her death but they paid money to shiny foundation and also held a memorial for j0nghyun after his death. sulli was way more mistreated than j0nghyun but no one talks about her 5m she was constantly bullied by knetz and sasaengs but 5m did not do anything for her and they erased her and her group after her death like they never existed

 

[Miss Bunny]

Yeah they were all grooming him there is even a video


Explain this to me and I will accept that j0nghyun was a pure person

on 0:15 he does the one eye also this is a teaser for his solo concert X-inspiration so it's not related to sh1nee j0nghyun had a lot of control over his solo work also you said he was tired of l5m but l5m is listed as an executive producer for Base his debut album

this is his solo mv he used the same symbolism as t@emin he is tied just like T@emin is in various of his mvs he wears a mask again like t@emin his makeup is adrogynous he has black and white duality going on at 2:36 you can see checkered pattern on the stairs also j0nghyun was the first 5m artist to be allowed to collaborate with people outside of his agency he was given complete freedom over his career he wrote 90% of his own songs and was producer of his albums and 5m allowed him to promote on music shows unlike Chanyeol who's self produced album was given nothing j0nghyun was also part of 5m the ballad he was not as mistreated as everyone believes also 5m paid dust to f(x) and sulli after her death but they paid money to shiny foundation and also held a memorial for j0nghyun after his death. sulli was way more mistreated than j0nghyun but no one talks about her 5m she was constantly bullied by knetz and sasaengs but 5m did not do anything for her and they erased her and her group after her death like they never existed

My pleasure, but I've got something to do right now. And as soon as I done, I'll back to reply for your questions properly.
I promiseღ

 

[arhur12]

I will search about them,they seems very dark...i don't know this group lol...but i remember i saw a group in past kpop gen ,and gave me dark vibes,they were exposed in a channel
Their names are Bigbang?They were famous?
I read that G dragon was choosed by Sm,but after he signed with Yg

They are the Og satanist group in kpop Gdragon was officially titled the king of kpop by sk he was the first one to spread this stupid genderless agenda they debuted in 2006 2 years before sh1nee his videos are filled with dark symbolism his band mate seungri was involved in a prostituition scandal bt5 have also said they were inspired by B!g bang and Gd's work jungk00k is a huge fan of Gd

 

[not_important]

pls post smth cringey lmao save us

I really didn't want this discussion to turn into a personal fight bc imagine if there are insiders lurking here they'd be laughing at us on their throne made of dust. While we reunited here bc we agreed on this thread's subject, I realized that not a lot of different members are gathering here(im not classifying the right and wrong type of persons and I can't describe them all lol): those who refuse to call themselves fans even between themselves, those who admit they are still fans, those who take their opinions for facts esp. if more than one person agrees with it, tho there's a chance it might true or false but still this opinion will get developped and taken as truth and imo, there are certain things we can discuss but briefly bc obviously, some of them might undermine the wickedness of the industry and can cause cognitive dissonance and again the understimation of how evil this industry is.

We also agree that the performers are puppets, but how can we know if after they became consenting adults they are still adhering to this industry's principle? We don't, we only try to guess and unless we are completely sure, we can't use these theories as receipts to prove that this industry is nowhere as innocent as it is shown and that it has, like every other industry supposedly, a bad as well as a good side (tho it has been already proven and we don't need further proof but if the discussion is going to be kept, we might as well only talk abt those who make the puppets act).

Why talking abt companies is more important?
1.While they are subjected to an agenda as well, they are the one that are directly controlling those who are put in front and those who are the reason (the image they put on display) of the obsession of millions of people, the obsession that is problematic.

2.We know how mainstream media has been painting a big part of the truth as conspiracy theories that only crazy and delusional people believe in(im not saying that every single thing that is called a conspiracy theory is to be unconspiracied and believed), also some kids and teenagers are sadly kinda fed up of their parents telling them to stop obsessing and that it won't benefit them and then u have their favs that come and say "do what u want" "ur free" "ignore the haters" and then any advice will be taken as an insult to their freedom.
So telling someone who is a fan that ur fav or bias is deceiving you, they won't believe u even if u reach the moon (well in some cases some are open for discussion but im talking abt those who are under their influence), bc the way they perceive those artists as their best friend is taped within them. Yeah so talking with a someone in a way that they might understand is way more productive (of course im not saying that the artists aren't playing a role at all but yknow we should begin with logic).

Those were suggestions.

Anyway I wont make it any longer and sorry for the bold font i couldn't remove it.

 

[slowlyfading]

I really didn't want this discussion to turn into a personal fight bc imagine if there are insiders lurking here they'd be laughing at us on their throne made of dust. While we reunited here bc we agreed on this thread's subject, I realized that not a lot of different members are gathering here(im not classifying the right and wrong type of persons and I can't describe them all lol): those who refuse to call themselves fans even between themselves, those who admit they are still fans, those who take their opinions for facts esp. if more than one person agrees with it, tho there's a chance it might true or false but still this opinion will get developped and taken as truth and imo, there are certain things we can discuss but briefly bc obviously, some of them might undermine the wickedness of the industry and can cause cognitive dissonance and again the understimation of how evil this industry is.

We also agree that the performers are puppets, but how can we know if after they became consenting adults they are still adhering to this industry's principle? We don't, we only try to guess and unless we are completely sure, we can't use these theories as receipts to prove that this industry is nowhere as innocent as it is shown and that it has, like every other industry supposedly, a bad as well as a good side (tho it has been already proven and we don't need further proof but if the discussion is going to be kept, we might as well only talk abt those who make the puppets act).

Why talking abt companies is more important?
1.While they are subjected to an agenda as well, they are the one that are directly controlling those who are put in front and those who are the reason (the image they put on display) of the obsession of millions of people, the obsession that is problematic.

2.We know how mainstream media has been painting a big part of the truth as conspiracy theories that only crazy and delusional people believe in(im not saying that every single thing that is called a conspiracy theory is to be unconspiracied and believed), also some kids and teenagers are sadly kinda fed up of their parents telling them to stop obsessing and that it won't benefit them and then u have their favs that come and say "do what u want" "ur free" "ignore the haters" and then any advice will be taken as an insult to their freedom.
So telling someone who is a fan that ur fav or bias is deceiving you, they won't believe u even if u reach the moon (well in some cases some are open for discussion but im talking abt those who are under their influence), bc the way they perceive those artists as their best friend is taped within them. Yeah so talking with a someone in a way that they might understand is way more productive (of course im not saying that the artists aren't playing a role at all but yknow we should begin with logic).

Those were suggestions.

Anyway I wont make it any longer and sorry for the bold font i couldn't remove it.

i totally see what youre trying to say.

after becoming adults in the industry i believe theyve been indoctrinated enough to continue doing the evil things they do behind closed doors. i actually just came across a video of 69nine or whatever his name is lol and he is well aware of the industries darkness and how they r all puppets.

TikTok - Make Your Day

www.tiktok.com

if u look through that tiktok page the person gives reciepts of western artists being fully aware - so then it makes me think if western artists r aware then arent some kcelebs ?. its hard to discuss bc we are only shown so much from these celebs and idols so we can base our theories on what we are shown (and we r shown a lot of magic and occultic symbolism that they all take part in).

your second paragraph - im a bit confused are u saying that as they become adults they should be more aware of their actions ? and that we dont know if they still adhere to the industries rules as adults ? i think that we have lots of mvs and photos of adult idols promoting the agenda. i dont think the same industry that is blatantly satanic and controlling is in any way innocent ? im sorry im just trying to understand what u mean with that paragraph.

and yes it is incredibly difficult to have a conversation w a fan who refuses to listen. i think its the spells the idols use and the subliminals in their songs and mvs that warp their minds. its sad that some fans believe that the idol cares for them when in reality fans are just a source of income for these idols.
/nm

 

[not_important]

i totally see what youre trying to say.

after becoming adults in the industry i believe theyve been indoctrinated enough to continue doing the evil things they do behind closed doors. i actually just came across a video of 69nine or whatever his name is lol and he is well aware of the industries darkness and how they r all puppets.

TikTok - Make Your Day

www.tiktok.com

if u look through that tiktok page the person gives reciepts of western artists being fully aware - so then it makes me think if western artists r aware then arent some kcelebs ?. its hard to discuss bc we are only shown so much from these celebs and idols so we can base our theories on what we are shown (and we r shown a lot of magic and occultic symbolism that they all take part in).

your second paragraph - im a bit confused are u saying that as they become adults they should be more aware of their actions ? and that we dont know if they still adhere to the industries rules as adults ? i think that we have lots of mvs and photos of adult idols promoting the agenda. i dont think the same industry that is blatantly satanic and controlling is in any way innocent ? im sorry im just trying to understand what u mean with that paragraph.

and yes it is incredibly difficult to have a conversation w a fan who refuses to listen. i think its the spells the idols use and the subliminals in their songs and mvs that warp their minds. its sad that some fans believe that the idol cares for them when in reality fans are just a source of income for these idols.
/nm

Personally I don't think there would be a reason for western celebs to be aware and k celebs not while I admit that in both cases, tv programs, varety shows etc. can make them look like normal people who have nothing to hide and that "success" and global fame came with hard work only.

In the second paragraph I was referring to the debate here, I meant that us elaborating whether they are adhering or no based on our theories can lead us to drift away from the subject quickly. I might be wrong tho.

 

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Personally I don't think there would be a reason for western celebs to be aware and k celebs not while I admit that in both cases, tv programs, varety shows etc. can make them look like normal people who have nothing to hide and that "success" and global fame came with hard work only.

In the second paragraph I was referring to the debate here, I meant that us elaborating whether they are adhering or no based on our theories can lead us to drift away from the subject quickly. I might be wrong tho.

yes exactly. western celebs seem to be aware and actively promoting the agenda so i would also conclude that so are kcelebs. no one is better than the other, they all played a role. the only difference i would say between the western celebs and idols is that western celebs dont have crazy rigid contracts like kidols have. western celebs can date can do drugs etc party in public etc, whilst its much more stricter for idols. so whilst they r all under the same influence and serve the same purpose, idols are not going to be as truthful or direct as westerners. plus they only show us what they want us to see as fans and as viewers, their vlives (normally theres a manager or someone in the room behind the camera), their variety shows, interviews - theyre all either scripted or edited so we only see and know what they allow. so i agree with you they may seem normal and innocent during their promotions etc but with the knowledge and info we all have we know better than to believe them.

yes i agree again lol. the main point was that everyone is responsible and no one is better than the other bc every celeb and every idol are involved in dark things.

 

[arhur12]

My pleasure, but I've got something to do right now. And as soon as I done, I'll back to reply for your questions properly.
I promiseღ

It's ok even if you don't explain it this thing has been dragged for too long lets all let it go now

 

[queen82]

Bts highlight reel

ok thanks a lot

 

[Taeminfan2022]

Wang Yibo (Idol, but mostly known from the drama "The Untamed") became Chanel ambassador. They know.

 

[queen82]

and more opinions based on what ? that’s ur opinion not a fact. enough don’t talk to me abt this no more yall energy vampires frfr. if i see yall continue to bias jh istg lmao

you didn't need to be intimitading, i want to have a civil discussion without being attacked ..

 

[arhur12]

I really didn't want this discussion to turn into a personal fight bc imagine if there are insiders lurking here they'd be laughing at us on their throne made of dust. While we reunited here bc we agreed on this thread's subject, I realized that not a lot of different members are gathering here(im not classifying the right and wrong type of persons and I can't describe them all lol): those who refuse to call themselves fans even between themselves, those who admit they are still fans, those who take their opinions for facts esp. if more than one person agrees with it, tho there's a chance it might true or false but still this opinion will get developped and taken as truth and imo, there are certain things we can discuss but briefly bc obviously, some of them might undermine the wickedness of the industry and can cause cognitive dissonance and again the understimation of how evil this industry is.

We also agree that the performers are puppets, but how can we know if after they became consenting adults they are still adhering to this industry's principle? We don't, we only try to guess and unless we are completely sure, we can't use these theories as receipts to prove that this industry is nowhere as innocent as it is shown and that it has, like every other industry supposedly, a bad as well as a good side (tho it has been already proven and we don't need further proof but if the discussion is going to be kept, we might as well only talk abt those who make the puppets act).

Why talking abt companies is more important?
1.While they are subjected to an agenda as well, they are the one that are directly controlling those who are put in front and those who are the reason (the image they put on display) of the obsession of millions of people, the obsession that is problematic.

2.We know how mainstream media has been painting a big part of the truth as conspiracy theories that only crazy and delusional people believe in(im not saying that every single thing that is called a conspiracy theory is to be unconspiracied and believed), also some kids and teenagers are sadly kinda fed up of their parents telling them to stop obsessing and that it won't benefit them and then u have their favs that come and say "do what u want" "ur free" "ignore the haters" and then any advice will be taken as an insult to their freedom.
So telling someone who is a fan that ur fav or bias is deceiving you, they won't believe u even if u reach the moon (well in some cases some are open for discussion but im talking abt those who are under their influence), bc the way they perceive those artists as their best friend is taped within them. Yeah so talking with a someone in a way that they might understand is way more productive (of course im not saying that the artists aren't playing a role at all but yknow we should begin with logic).

Those were suggestions.

Anyway I wont make it any longer and sorry for the bold font i couldn't remove it.

yes exactly. western celebs seem to be aware and actively promoting the agenda so i would also conclude that so are kcelebs. no one is better than the other, they all played a role. the only difference i would say between the western celebs and idols is that western celebs dont have crazy rigid contracts like kidols have. western celebs can date can do drugs etc party in public etc, whilst its much more stricter for idols. so whilst they r all under the same influence and serve the same purpose, idols are not going to be as truthful or direct as westerners. plus they only show us what they want us to see as fans and as viewers, their vlives (normally theres a manager or someone in the room behind the camera), their variety shows, interviews - theyre all either scripted or edited so we only see and know what they allow. so i agree with you they may seem normal and innocent during their promotions etc but with the knowledge and info we all have we know better than to believe them.

yes i agree again lol. the main point was that everyone is responsible and no one is better than the other bc every celeb and every idol are involved in dark things.

I also think that some of them are indoctrinated so much they don't realize that what they are doing is wrong I mean look around us there are so many people nowadays who support all of these stupid movements when an idol or a celebrity does something satanic fans glorify them instead of criticizing them we were talking about internet war performance earlier I have seen shawols praise sh1nee for being COURAGEOUS enough to do that performance they use it to brag about there favs its insane like if we go back to 10-20 years these things were actively discouraged when Britney came out with Baby one more time she faced so much backlash from conservative parents while nowadays we have parents who are trying to raise gender fluid children and most of these people are regular citizens just like us with no connections to the occult so maybe some of these celebs are just indoctrinated so much especially the ones who have been in this game since they were children that they honestly believe they are doing something right by supporting these satanic agendas