BTS discussion thread

[the world is a stage]

Actually it's a dangerous thing to do.
Do they want to fit in the questionable hollywood celeb world so much ?
Some people always liked them and KPop because they were out of the politics and all, but them taking active position may have a backlash.
Nobody care about what celeb have to say about morality because they have the lowest standard and they are the last people to pontificate others.
What BTS have done is "Love everyone EXCEPT the ones that have different politic".
Anyway i don't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore, they are in, they are searching protection from that world.

The "not real army" argument always left me speechless....basically, in this BTS fandom, you are a REAL ARMY only if you:
Listen only BTS 24h
Give all your money to them
Spam twitters 24h(with 10 different accounts)
watch their video 24
Only think of BTS 24h
If you don't do all this apparently you're not a real fan so your opinion on the matter doesn't count(and you deserve to get mobbed till deactivaction)
I think ARMY should change their name in ZOMBIES because that's what they are.
There are people that disliked the BBmas comeback and still like BTS, to downgrade their opinion because they also listen to Mosta X is TYPICAL illuminati attitude...
Actually i think i'm starting to get it....BTS fanbase is the way governaments probably would love us all, with one thought and no personal opinions.

Exactly

 

[ShiningCarat14]

 

[DarkAndWild]

BTW APRIL AND WAYNE, POSTED A VIDEO JUST NOW ABOUT BTS AND THEIR ILLUMINATI INFLUENCE, CHECK IT OUT IT’S VERY INTERESTING...I GOT GOOSEBUMPS JUST WATCHING IT

 

[dee]

although i agree with most of what is has being said here recently, i also somewhat disagree...

Dont forget that we as society's have failed our own children i mean think about it... many of those fan girls that would go and stream religiously have their personal reasons that they might not even know about. I believe that most of those 'fans' suffer some type of emptiness that only a band of 7 guys can make her/him feel better. Some people come from overly protective, religious, conservative, strict families were most of their youth unfortunately was or is being wasted. That is why all they care about is a band like bts because unlike western artists bts shows you random shows that they make they try to make it seem that they're next door. like they're just that close to you you feel like they know you and you know them (scary i know buttttttt works). Maybe that's the only form of love some people will ever come close to. That's why im not judging because i know how it feels like. So what is happening right now and their level of success (minus the illuminati conspiracy aspect of it) is a product of our own societal issues. Their company seems to be very much knowledgeable about these things and are using it to their privilege. As long as people find something they love and are okay i think its good...but i know how this could end up looking at the industry and they might drastically do something that could backfire both at the fans and the boys. Until then i just hope fans realize these things and work on themselves other than just living for them.

 

[dee]

Another thing that I would like to add is yes I do believe that they have affirmations in their songs that could hypnotize you into buying their things because I just preordered their album AND I NEVER PREORDER SHIT ONLINE another thing is I'm literally trying to travel 5 hrs just to see them live. BUT if i wanna look at some of the positive aspects ... I have become more focused on my uni work my grades have jumped up , Ive been getting straight A's for a whole semester (ever since ive started stanning them) ... I dont know how to think about this but maybe its because ive been focusing on the positive messages that they wanna convey to their fans other than what is forced upon them ; mv concepts etc ... I don't know but i just felt like sharing this.

 

[dee]

This is clearly (or seems to be) promoting the use of drugs.

This was okay until the ending came along... i don't understand why the fuck they keep killing jin off like this! its disturbing! he clearly OD'ed in this clip !!! ughhhhhh im so frustratedd!!!!!! they do this in almost all clips

 

[Maggieca]

Their company seems to be very much knowledgeable about these things and are using it to their privilege.

you can be sure of that
this is why they did a survey for the fans and asked them A LOT of personal questions, even about their mental health and regular habits
I thought it was so creepy how the company wanted to know if the fans suffered depression, but nobody cared and said it was a normal question

 

[Maggieca]

BTW APRIL AND WAYNE, POSTED A VIDEO JUST NOW ABOUT BTS AND THEIR ILLUMINATI INFLUENCE, CHECK IT OUT IT’S VERY INTERESTING...I GOT GOOSEBUMPS JUST WATCHING IT]

Yeah in the WINGS album they used Jin as the innocent one (Sinclair) and Taehyung as the Devil one (Demian)
Here are 2 videos explaining the album WINGS and all the symbology in it.

It's VERY interesting and I will be adding it to the first post of the thread because i think everyone should watch it to understand the story better

 

[dee]

you can be sure of that
this is why they did a survey for the fans and asked them A LOT of personal questions, even about their mental health and regular habits
I thought it was so creepy how the company wanted to know if the fans suffered depression, but nobody cared and said it was a normal question

It's clearly not a normal question ...

 

[quinuoa]

I just found this:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/989861086756200448

remember RM jacket talking about human control system? seems like the comeback will be about a controversial sociopolitical topic and I wonder if them debuting the song in america has a bigger purposse

A lot of important events are happening right now, an historical handshake happened just today:

Kim Jong-un and Moon Jae-in in historic handshake

SEOUL,
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and the South's President Moon Jae-in shook hands Friday over the Military Demarcation Line that divides their countries in a gesture laden with symbolism ahead of a historic summit.

of course all this could be another coincidence and maybe the handshake is not staged or part of an agenda (lol) but it really looks like BTS comeback will be about a political theme this time considering the clues the fans are getting

So since this means there's no official war that's happening or possibly going to happen, male members of the country might not be forced to go to the military anymore. I bet you anything they'll probably try to exempt celebrities/idols from serving. Thoughts?

 

[dee]

So since this means there's no official war that's happening or possibly going to happen, male members of the country might not be forced to go to the military anymore. I bet you anything they'll probably try to exempt celebrities/idols from serving. Thoughts?

Wtfff!!!! Now that I think about it, a few days ago I was actually thinking about this! I was like BTS is too huge of an influence South Korea could cook up something and not make them serve in the military. But I guess this whole Korea thing is gonna work in their favor. Another thing that I find EXTREMELY fishy is that skorea n nkorea are now on good terms when bts is gonna make a comeback possibly talking about political issues in their country ... seems scripted to me ... like they knew everything? I guess we'll have to see what their new stuff is gonna be really about before assuming ...

 

[Maggieca]

So since this means there's no official war that's happening or possibly going to happen, male members of the country might not be forced to go to the military anymore. I bet you anything they'll probably try to exempt celebrities/idols from serving. Thoughts?

We will have to wait and see. But if this happens the entertainment companies will be very happy. Army enlistement is the main reason for boygroups to lose popularity because they have to go on hiatus or perform without some of the members

Wtfff!!!! Now that I think about it, a few days ago I was actually thinking about this! I was like BTS is too huge of an influence South Korea could cook up something and not make them serve in the military. But I guess this whole Korea thing is gonna work in their favor. Another thing that I find EXTREMELY fishy is that skorea n nkorea are now on good terms when bts is gonna make a comeback possibly talking about political issues in their country ... seems scripted to me ... like they knew everything? I guess we'll have to see what their new stuff is gonna be really about before assuming ...

I think this is planned and now it makes sense that kpop groups like Red Velvet went to perform in North Korea last month
I'm curious about what's really going on here and what agenda are they trying to promote
BTS having a comeback with a political theme at this time is no coincidence, they are also debuting the song in America so it can reach the masses

 

[saintroserosalia]

This was okay until the ending came along... i don't understand why the fuck they keep killing jin off like this! its disturbing! he clearly OD'ed in this clip !!! ughhhhhh im so frustratedd!!!!!! they do this in almost all clips

I hope this is not predictive programming. It's scary to keep watching and knowing that Jin and Tae have some weird main roles in almost every BTS music video. Euphoria is the first BTS video that I cannot even bear to watch and finish it for some reason

 

[saintroserosalia]

Another thing that I would like to add is yes I do believe that they have affirmations in their songs that could hypnotize you into buying their things because I just preordered their album AND I NEVER PREORDER SHIT ONLINE another thing is I'm literally trying to travel 5 hrs just to see them live

I have experienced the same thing: when I first watched BTS Mama 2016 stage with my younger sis (a multifandom but not Army), I didn't care about going to kpop concerts. But I didn't know that once after watching Boy Meets Evil, BST and Fire, this is what I told my sis: 'I'm going to watch them live next year once Wings Tour is out. I wanna experience Boy Meets Evil live!' She was so shocked because I was such a casual kpop listener (I was surprised myself, lol). I really didn't know why, yet later that month I also bought my first kpop album, you can guess it what that was: Wings (although I only bought one version - buying all 4 ver is really such a waste of money). So, I really dunno how BTS managed to lure me into buying their album and going into their concert (me and my sis' 1st kpop concert). We were so grateful we were able to attend the concert and at the same time we were happy that we were not transformed into full blown Armys. I dunno what it was but there was something 'empty' and 'inauthentic' about them... This is just my personal opinion ='(

I also realize this is what they can do to the non-kpop fans, for I've read a few of tweets of how they started to get 'attracted' to their music and live stage, due to them being the 'special' kpop group, despite they don't listen to kpop ever.

 

[HappyAlfredo]

Another thing that I would like to add is yes I do believe that they have affirmations in their songs that could hypnotize you into buying their things because I just preordered their album AND I NEVER PREORDER SHIT ONLINE another thing is I'm literally trying to travel 5 hrs just to see them live. BUT if i wanna look at some of the positive aspects ... I have become more focused on my uni work my grades have jumped up , Ive been getting straight A's for a whole semester (ever since ive started stanning them) ... I dont know how to think about this but maybe its because ive been focusing on the positive messages that they wanna convey to their fans other than what is forced upon them ; mv concepts etc ... I don't know but i just felt like sharing this.

I actually do really feel like I was hypnotized. I was never a person who was a huge fan of music and definitely not Kpop. I listened to a few songs and videos and suddenly they're all I thought about. My life purpose became to give them more success. I bought the last album (preordered it too) even though I'm never someone who would buy a physical album.
Even a few weeks ago when I started to fall out of love with their music I still felt a weird urge to buy their upcoming album and BT21 merchandise.

 

[saintroserosalia]

I noticed odd things sometimes but I always brushed it off. I recently removed all Kpop off of my playlists including BTS after reading the other thread. This world is a really scary place.

Do u mind to share what odd things u find in the boys? I'm quite curious to know.

This world is indeed one terrifying place to live in. I'm getting jaded all over again After reading some threads in this forum, I don't think I would like to listen to Kpop anymore
...

 

[HappyAlfredo]

Do u mind to share what odd things u find in the boys? I'm quite curious to know.

This world is indeed one terrifying place to live in. I'm getting jaded all over again After reading some threads in this forum, I don't think I would like to listen to Kpop anymore
...

Mostly Taehyung's change in character, it's like he turned into a completely different person. And the fact that only RM and Suga seem to know what they're concepts are even about and are the only ones able to talk indeptley during interviews.
Also, the hand signs they do in pictures. I noticed Suga always doing that devil horns hand sign and a few random gang hand signs. Tae also does his signature peace sign over one eye, which actually has a meaning I can't really explain well.
The fact that their mvs and story lines always seem to end with death. And the whole Demien thing in Wings. I always dismissed it as just their concept and that they probably don't know what these things mean, but now I know better.

 

[1shae123]

I actually do really feel like I was hypnotized. I was never a person who was a huge fan of music and definitely not Kpop. I listened to a few songs and videos and suddenly they're all I thought about. My life purpose became to give them more success. I bought the last album (preordered it too) even though I'm never someone who would buy a physical album.
Even a few weeks ago when I started to fall out of love with their music I still felt a weird urge to buy their upcoming album and BT21 merchandise.

SAME!!!

 

[saintroserosalia]

Mostly Taehyung's change in character, it's like he turned into a completely different person. And the fact that only RM and Suga seem to know what they're concepts are even about and are the only ones able to talk indeptley during interviews.
Also, the hand signs they do in pictures. I noticed Suga always doing that devil horns hand sign and a few random gang hand signs. Tae also does his signature peace sign over one eye, which actually has a meaning I can't really explain well.
The fact that their mvs and story lines always seem to end with death. And the whole Demien thing in Wings. I always dismissed it as just their concept and that they probably don't know what these things mean, but now I know better.

Thanks for sharing
I agree about Namgi who seem to be in charge of the direction of their music (under the so-called guidance of their CEO). I remember watching Hobi's birthday last year (Day 1 of Wings Concert) on V live, all of the boys were there to celebrate his bday, except Namgi which the boys explained the two were in a meeting. I was thinking, what kind of a meeting was that, furthermore it was at midnight (I have no idea how Koreans work, so... maybe this is just a culture shock to me). Hoseok doesn't seem to be talking about music much, which strikes me strange ,since he is part of the songwriting team. I'm not sure about Tae, maybe he's just growing up to be more mature person (but then again, sometimes he does act childishly). I didn't realize his eye twitched that bad during Mic Drop live until I read it here. That is just terrifying.

 

[Maggieca]

Thanks for sharing
I agree about Namgi who seem to be in charge of the direction of their music (under the so-called guidance of their CEO). I remember watching Hobi's birthday last year (Day 1 of Wings Concert) on V live, all of the boys were there to celebrate his bday, except Namgi which the boys explained the two were in a meeting. I was thinking, what kind of a meeting was that, furthermore it was at midnight (I have no idea how Koreans work, so... maybe this is just a culture shock to me). Hoseok doesn't seem to be talking about music much, which strikes me strange ,since he is part of the songwriting team. I'm not sure about Tae, maybe he's just growing up to be more mature person (but then again, sometimes he does act childishly). I didn't realize his eye twitched that bad during Mic Drop live until I read it here. That is just terrifying.

oh yeah Tae's eye twitch is disturbing and always happens during the same part of the song
And I think is very telling RM and Yoongi control the dynamics of the group when they are not the oldest because in Korea age hierarchy is very important but it's clear that in this group Jin (who is the oldest) has no authority

even in Burn the stage you can see RM and Yoongi controlling the conversation when Taehyung and Jin had a fight, this is really not normal when you have an older person like Jin involved in the conflict.
To me it's clear all the other members are considered below RM and Yoongi by the company, this is why they only listen to them