Who do Muslims really worship?

[Nikōn]

What I find strange is before the Torah there was no law. There is your dispensationalism. Tribes like the midians etc, God winking at pagans ignorance. The Torah was not some established law. Apparently that thinking doesn't extend to Christ. I see alot of illogicality in that.

So are we refuting the concept of Revelation here? or the concept of Covenant? (which did occur throughout Bereshit/Genesis prior to Moses).
Covenant is not dispensationalism, dispensationalism is a change in mode of salvation and the segregation of revelation into periods.
But to correct you there, as early as Noah we see him practicing similar things to the Israelites of Moses' day, with similar legal concerns, but the details of this are not given in Bereshit/Genesis itself the way that it is in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. In terms of the Torah's internal theology, it doesn't appear as in development (unlike seen via the later Prophets and the New Testament both to each other and to the Torah) but tends to be more in instruction in the way that the writer of the Torah intends to convey legal concerns through the stories, as well as their historical realities.

As for if you are going to use dispensationalist logic, I can't see why you can't also use that for Islam, hypothetically.

 

[Bubbajay]

Yet here you are claiming to have read the Bible.



That is what is important here.

Christianity started once Jesus died on the cross, which was the same exact time the OT religion ended. Rabbinic judaism has nothing to do with the OT, in fact the whole religion is a negation of the OT writings by denying they even happened.

On the other hand Islam came along 600 years afterwards. Your own argument sells your religion out. Congrats.

 

[Nikōn]

Christianity started once Jesus died on the cross, which was the same exact time the OT religion ended. Rabbinic judaism has nothing to do with the OT, in fact the whole religion is a negation of the OT writings by denying they even happened.

On the other hand Islam came along 600 years afterwards. Your own argument sells your religion out. Congrats.

To throw back your logic at you. None of what you say is evidence that Buddhism is true, you are not making a strong case for Buddhism Bubbajay, your arguments for Buddhism just prove Samaritanism correct.

 

[Bubbajay]

To throw back your logic at you. None of what you say is evidence that Buddhism is true, you are not making a strong case for Buddhism Bubbajay, your arguments for Buddhism just prove Samaritanism correct.

Buddhism doesn't claim to be a continuation of the bible like Islam does. Your point is moot.

 

[Nikōn]

Buddhism doesn't claim to be a continuation of the bible like Islam does. Your point is moot.

You play the character of the forum troll very well, I applaud you on that. Your response confirms what I was saying about you (and your posts) above.

 

[Bubbajay]

You play the character of the forum troll very well, I applaud you on that. Your response confirms what I was saying about you (and your posts) above.

Just because your arguments make no sense means I'm a troll.

 

[Nikōn]

Just because your arguments make no sense means I'm a troll.

No because you just give non-sequiturs, red herrings, ad hominems and rave on about things in a way that most Christians would regard as nefarious.

 

[Nikōn]

Frankly though, this forum really does have the most uninteresting "Christians" (quote-unquote because I find it to be self-professed rather than actual Christians) I've encountered. It is a big change in quality when I switch between this site and others with communities of Christians users devoted to Bible study and politics. This place has a noticeable drop compared to other places.

 

[Bubbajay]

No because you just give non-sequiturs, red herrings, ad hominems and rave on about things in a way that most Christians would regard as nefarious.

The only thing that can even be described as an "ad hominem" would be my comment about you not having the Spirit of God. I never called you any names. My "non-sequiter" is me pointing out you cannot use Buddhism as a straw man in your argument since Buddhism has nothing to do with the bible. And since you're not a Christian, then maybe you should let Christians decide what they regard as "nefarious". Cheers

 

[Bubbajay]

Frankly though, this forum really does have the most uninteresting "Christians" (quote-unquote because I find it to be self-professed rather than actual Christians) I've encountered. It is a big change in quality when I switch between this site and others with communities of Christians users devoted to Bible study and politics. This place has a noticeable drop compared to other places.

That's fine.I've never claimed to be interesting. Your comments about devotion is only your opinion. If any self professed Christian has anything in common with your doctrine, then they wouldn't be Christian would they? I sense that's your real problem.

 

[Nikōn]

I never called you any names.

Come again?:

You're what the bible calls a "reprobate". I guarantee you're a lying, and deceitful person in your everyday life.

He's a reprobate (rejected by God).

And other further comments.

My "non-sequiter" is me pointing out you cannot use Buddhism as a straw man in your argument since Buddhism has nothing to do with the bible.

Look, you're trying to be funny and nobody is in the mood for your clownish behavior.

My pointing out of your non-sequiturs through analogy is not a strawman and I put the analogy at the forefront of the post:

To throw back your logic at you.

Only a troll would respond saying:

Buddhism doesn't claim to be a continuation of the bible

And since you're not a Christian, then maybe you should let Christians decide what they regard as "nefarious". Cheers

I've already screenshotted your posts and shown to several Christians, even ones in physical conversation who have laughed their heads off and regarded you just as I have spoken.

 

[Nikōn]

If any self professed Christian has anything in common with your doctrine, then they wouldn't be Christian would they? I sense that's your real problem.

They don't have to, merely agreeing with your (trinitarian) doctrine doesn't justify or validate your insidious, asinine behavior.

 

[seekinheart]

So are we refuting the concept of Revelation here? or the concept of Covenant? (which did occur throughout Bereshit/Genesis prior to Moses).
Covenant is not dispensationalism, dispensationalism is a change in mode of salvation and the segregation of revelation into periods.
But to correct you there, as early as Noah we see him practicing similar things to the Israelites of Moses' day, with similar legal concerns, but the details of this are not given in Bereshit/Genesis itself the way that it is in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. In terms of the Torah's internal theology, it doesn't appear as in development (unlike seen via the later Prophets and the New Testament both to each other and to the Torah) but tends to be more in instruction in the way that the writer of the Torah intends to convey legal concerns through the stories, as well as their historical realities.

As for if you are going to use dispensationalist logic, I can't see why you can't also use that for Islam, hypothetically.

Revelation by its very nature has to be periodic.

To claim that the shedding of blood for the remission of sins is unfounded in the old testament.

It's actually funny because even Jesus was a dispensationalist in the fact that he never actually baptised anyone. And yet was baptised himself. He never converted the gentiles either.

We are co workers with Christ.

 

[fotw]

That's a far cry from getting your doctrine from a 4 year old. How many 4 years old you see behind a pulpit?

You have been warned.

 

[Michi]

@Daze you think threatening other people is the thing to do? But oh profanity is so offensive to your delicate sensibilities!

What kind of operation are you running here Mr. holier than thou? You also told an addict it's a good idea to burn herself with a flame to overcome her addiction. And your acolytes applauded you.

And you say Christians are driven by devils.

I said you attack Christians and you do.

You are deluded to think you are saving people from the flame over the internet. It is a figment of your imagination. You're probably a swell guy irl. If you want to save people show mercy in the real world through your actions.
That would require unplugging from your make believe land of hurling insults all day and night.

 

[AdjeYen]

@Daze you think threatening other people is the thing to do? But oh profanity is so offensive to your delicate sensibilities!

What kind of operation are you running here Mr. holier than thou? You also told an addict it's a good idea to burn herself with a flame to overcome her addiction. And your acolytes applauded you.

And you say Christians are driven by devils.

I said you attack Christians and you do.

You are deluded to think you are saving people from the flame over the internet. It is a figment of your imagination. You're probably a swell guy irl. If you want to save people show mercy in the real world through your actions.
That would require unplugging from your make believe land of hurling insults all day and night.

Yes, we do. Do you know how we attack Christians, my brother?

By denying Jesus being the son of God, being the God (God went to Earth to understand mankind better), worshipping the Holy Spirit in God's form...
Christians are the only people who say that 1+1+1 equals 1.

That is how we attack you Christian people, we just throw facts at you.
No one is holier than anyone on this forum, my brother, I'm not superior to you, I'm not better than you, nor I'm offending you, your existence, your personal life, whatever you do, you get my point here.
I'm not offending anyone here, nor do I wish bad things to anyone, either, all I'm saying here is, Jesus never said that he's God.
If you have a problem with that, then that's your problem, not mine, brother.

 

[Mohammed_123]

Thought i would drop in and say hi....

also i have a new decode...

SURAH FATIHA

FATIHA

612981

= 999
= 27
= H
= 8
= A
= 18
= AYN

= EYE OF RA / ALL SEEING EYE

SURAH BAKARAH

BAKARAH

2121918

= 42 99

= 42 18

= 42 AYN

= ILLUMINATI / EYE OF RA / ALL SEEING EYE

Flidais - Wikipedia

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[Mohammed_123]

Flidais - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Flidais, Celtic Earth Goddess, Lady of the Forest and Much More by Judith Shaw

This year the fall equinox occurs on September 22. In the Pagan calendar it is a time for giving thanks called Mabon. Mabon celebrates the end of the harvest season and is a time to honor our wil…

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Taken directly from the word FATIHA

 

[Maldarker]

Thank you for the laugh tonight. Such a Babylonian, Pagan, Roman apologetic for denying the authority of God the Almighty. 4 of the 9 examples don't even say worshiped, it says bowed to lol.

Jesus being the leader and Messiah doesn't make him God- which is why he rebuked the deluded, faithless people who tried to idolize him. And here we go the same weak-hearts exist today that just don't get what this culture is about. Judaism is from the East, Christianity is from the East, and so is Islam. It's why Christianity is dying out in the West- because your people never really understood this lifestyle.

All godless neo-Crusader Christians who disrespect Islam are already burning in hell, drowning in their lies.

2. Thou shalt not bow down unto them, nor serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me; and showing mercy unto the thousandth genera- tion of them that love Me and keep My commandments.

 

[Maldarker]

Just as your username suggests, this is what you are literally doing:

I think you need to read his username again its not bubble....its bubba